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Question about Role of teeth when swallowing

@achille — Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:28:00 +0000

I want to know if teeth need to clench, in correct swallowing pattern. Whenever I see articles or videos of orthodontists talking bout correct swallowing they mainly talk about tongue pressing on the hard palate and warning against tongue thrusting. But they do not talk bout the role of teeth at all. Which is better teeth together or not at all (tongue thrust excluded ofc)?

Obvious facial asymmetry

Sceriff — Mon, 18 May 2026 18:39:50 +0000

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What do you think is causing this asymmetry? At 32, I don't have much hope, but I hope I can improve at least a little.

It almost looks like it's rotated backwards from the left side, it's absurd.

My left side is definitely better though.

Whole Body breathing to improve the eye area

Sceriff — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 19:35:15 +0000

Hi, I have a very hollow eye area similar to this one in the photo, perhaps due to genetics or due to a craniofacial dystrophy caused by poor jaw development.

With the method explained in this forum would it be possible to improve, even slightly, the eye area? Or is surgery necessary?

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will using reverse pull head gear straighten my nose?

eliasdepoot17 — Wed, 04 Mar 2026 15:53:32 +0000

I have a slight bump in my nose and I realized my top are teeth flared out I'm thinking that using reverse pull headgear will pull my maxilla out and straighten my nose I bought an rpe from braces shop with reverse pull hooks I'm also concerned that my jaw will not grow with the maxilla and I am 17

Tongue and lip tie release in The Netherlands: which clinic/practitioner?

Jelly — Wed, 14 Jan 2026 21:01:09 +0000

I have an online intake planned at 'Tongriem kliniek' in Groningen, they have the most experience, but also are most expensive (intake €100, tongue+optional lip ties €350, aftercare €100). There is also this cheaper Dental clinics in Diemen and Oldenzaal.

I am curious if anyone has experience with one or the other? And what theoretically the differences could be?

Hard mewing absolutely ruining my life

reddf — Thu, 18 Dec 2025 00:13:38 +0000

Hard mewing is absolutely not worth it. The forces applied to the maxilla only work if applied constantly, all day long. With hard mewing, this can only be done with the posterior third on the soft palate, because the anterior third won't be able to press with sufficient force consistently. There's a high risk of asymmetry. This hasn't been studied at all. I'm 17. Just 45 days were enough for my face to collapse. I had perfect facial harmony, I literally hit all the right marks, but I didn't know that, so I decided to do this damn mewing, for some unknown reason. I chose hard mewing for quick changes. I pressed for 16 hours every day with the posterior third. I was deeply depressed the entire time, and decided to do it all spontaneously, put my tongue on the roof of my mouth, and forgot about it. I'm so stupid. Over this time, my face has become deformed: my nose has drooped, my upper lip has become thinner, my eyes have become rounder, they've lost their support, my face has become distorted, and my eyebrows have drooped. The way people treat me has gradually changed, and I've reached the point where wherever I go, I'm looked at with disdain, and old acquaintances avoid me. For some reason, I've become more feminine. I look at my old face and realize I had enormous potential, but I've ruined it. It's irreversible. Literally no method can restore it to its previous state: pressing with the front part is risky, thumb-pulling is impossible to do all day long, and chewing damages your teeth if you do it every day. There are no orthodontic devices that can reverse the jaw. The only "solution" is a le forts 2/3 but these are incredibly expensive, risky surgeries with a high mortality rate, which you won't be able to achieve, and the results won't always be satisfactory. It upsets me so much that in this time I've developed deformities that only Le Fort can fix, in just 40 damn days. I realize that just 1.5 months ago my quality of life was much better. Just 1.5 months between enormous potential and... the end of my former life. This has reduced me from a potential 7/10 to a potential 4/10. I realize that I'll most likely never hold a girl's hand again, I have no friends, they don't talk to me. I'll most likely never again receive the respect I could. Literally everyone I come into contact with now treats me with a degree of disrespect. My appearance is now effeminate and ugly. And this is irreversible in no way, you will never return to your previous state. I checked my profile and full-face all day, and I can say with absolute certainty that all the changes are real, and I am IN NO WAY imagining things. 40 days... Honestly, I don't know what to do next. I really don't know. Don't repeat my mistakes, please, guys. I beg you. Listen to me, you who want to start doing this. It's absolutely not worth it. When it comes to the upper jaw, which is responsible for the structure of the entire face, you have to be EXTREMELY careful. I'm an idiot. Don't let yourself ruin your life the way I did.

Full palate expander vs Horseshoe expander

RealHuman — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 23:21:58 +0000

I’m about to buy a 3-way/Y-plate Schwarz expander, but I’m unsure which design is better for my goals.
I want to improve my tongue posture with mewing, fix my bite, and hopefully improve my facial aesthetics. My biggest concern is that a full-palate expander might feel too bulky, block my tongue, and make breathing harder. The more open horseshoe design looks more comfortable, but I’ve read that full-palate expanders create more real maxillary expansion, while horseshoe versions cause more dental tipping.
A good friend of mine bought a horseshoe expander around six years ago and had good results, but I’m not sure if that was from the expander itself, from mewing, or from both. I’m also wondering whether his results were true skeletal expansion or mostly tooth movement. If there was skeletal change, did it come from the expander alone, or from the expander plus the ability to maintain better tongue posture because of the open palate design?
If anyone has experience or advice choosing between a full-palate vs a horseshoe removable expander especially for someone whose goals include tongue posture and facial improvement I’d really appreciate the help.

My palate has widened nearly 6 mm!

forwardgrowth — Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:27:46 +0000

By myobrace, thumb pulling, subliminals, and mewing my palate has grown from 38mm to 43.5mm! This is incredible. My face has changed, my eyes have changed, everything. I was not thumb pulling consistently, but subliminal and myobrace carried hard.

WBB clarifications

Sceriff — Mon, 08 Sep 2025 20:57:31 +0000

I followed the lesson on YouTube in which the method is also explained, but if I understood correctly it is a relaxed breathing combined with a deep introspection of our sensations ...

But isn't it a meditation then? But I'm not a native English speaker so maybe I didn't understand everything well, so I'd like to ask you for clarification @TGW @karan @Tomtom