Thanks! Yep i've got the Y shaped one, i did get some forward expansion too. I think around 3mm. I had extractions behind my canines when I was a teen...

Thanks!My teeth and gums are fine, i haven't noticed any issues

@mafiagangBy gentle forces what do you mean? For example they usually use dental elastics for facemasks right - this sounds quite gentle for an adult.

Not really if you mean the lower jaw coming forward more. I think maybe my cheek bones are popping out a bit more though. But i'm only using the upper...

Sorry to quote such an old post, but do we know how to fix a mis-aligned roll? The left side of my teeth are lower down than the right.

Wow in that photo it looks like they're going for clockwise rotation, to rotate the maxilla down???I think it sounds like it would cause the lower jaw...

@toomerThats a great time lapse! And yep, I definitely had this asymmetry before - my dentist noticed the minor nasal deviation and mentioned it. But ...

How do you think it is possible to achieve CCW rotation in an adult male? If a facemask is anchored to a removable appliance like DNA at night with an...

Thanks Toomer, I checked out that timelapse video and it was fascinating. I'm about 3 months into my DNA treatment now, still only using the upper. I ...

I'm on Ca, Mg, D3, K2 while doing DNA appliance and I've seen change, but not sure if its just all from the DNA.

Small update from me - i'm a month into my upper DNA appliance, having done 4 turns (1mm) width wise and 2 (0.5mm) front.I think I need less frontal e...

Will do! TBH I feel like i'm driving this a lot myself lol, and he'll just go with what I suggest. But I did a fair bit of research myself before s...

I've started wearing a DNA appliance also - doing my 2nd turn today. So far its been super easy, I wear it when I sleep and pop it in a few hours duri...

A vaulted palate can be caused by other things like thumb sucking. If your palate gets vaulted from thumb sucking too much as a kid, maybe that then s...

any updates on this Keengo? its been a few years since you posted - did you persist with it?

I care 😀 , congrats thats awesome! I'll be getting one soon too, my face also needs to widen. Are you just widening or pushing forward too?

@daltira huge - how do you know that though?