@sheeesh It doesn't make sense when you think of the tongue as having independent forces of the face, but alas every muscle on your body is con...
Hey, admin, can you try expanding your front maxilla? I think it doesn't make sense to focus on the back of the maxilla if you're trying to go for a U...
Width won't help you out in this case. The width helps with breathing and maybe a bit with aesthetics, but overall to change your neck posture you wan...
It's the same with myopia.
Neck posture is more influenced by your maxilla than another way around. So fix your maxilla and neck posture will follow.
I think it's the opposite, a protruding chin allows your opponent to hit it easier, which moves the head easier, which causes a knock-out and brain da...
That's the problem with MSE, totally unnatural movements occurring. With mewing over long periods of time, the changes are gradual and dictated not on...
Most male models don't have strong chin projection though, usually. As for chins, it's likely they came when the maxilla projection was reduced.
What's exactly wrong with your arch right now? Why can't you mew? I might, in six months, make a proper guide on mewing. I feel the current instructio...
After 40 years old the face will probably stop growing because of health issues/bone osteoporosis will start to set in.
If it's short and periodic, it will stimulate bone growth, without causing negative changes like bone resorption or CW maxilla rotation. However, if i...
I meant to say CW rotation, chewing always causes CW rotation of the maxilla.
Problem with these appliances is there's no upward force, ideally you want everything to go up like the zygos, even the eyes, relative to the back of ...
Just stop mewing. People often place their tongue too forward when mewing and then when they pull on the posterior palate they are basically compressi...
yeah, this is very logical, your teeth got pushed in from the constant force. Don't worry, if you stop the clenching your front teeth will recover the...
This seems highly unlikely, I think the highest variability in "saddle angle" was only like 6 degrees or something in a study on average people. I ...
This picture doesn't check out though in terms of underlying bone tissue.
"Some pituitary adenomas can extend inferiorly, growing downward and invading the sphenoid bone and cavernous sinus.[2] Large adenomas can cause remod...
@apollo What if we're supposed to expand the sphenoid through the pterygoid process directly instead of trying to expand the palate? I can alr...
@admin What do you think about 3d printed appliances that could be put in the mouth, potentially all night long, to improve tongue posture and e...
It's reverse, the lower teeth have to be pushed in relative to the mandible to achieve growth. When the lower teeth push against ramus, the front ramu...
@snailgoo89 Some muscles directly connect to the sphenoid: Medial pterygoids pull on the posterior sphenoid backwards and downwards, whi...
The whole buccinator idea is bs. And sure, if your insertions are good, with low body-fat, then masseter hypertrophy can look good. Either way masse...
The slower the better, you want the effect to be global not localized. If you do it too quick, you will only increase palate width, but not zygo width...
You're right, in this case, clenching the masseters will cause this issue that he has. However, in general, masseter chewing won't. The differe...
@lelehorizon12 Maybe, it's possible. Your issue isn't muscle size though, chewing causes CW rotation of maxilla and facial bloating, so... The who...
@cristiang09_ Damn I had the same thing happen as you. It's hard to say what's happening exactly. At first I thought it was just because of pulling ...
@lelehorizon12 In general, in medical world, muscular hyperplasia is thought to be impossible in normal muscle training. That's why it's called ...
@a22 No, masseter type decreases gonial angle. But don't focus on that.
Masseters are often responsible for bloating the cheeks.
For wisdom teeth to erupt there needs two be two things: Enough space. Enough "stimulation" of the wisdom teeth and the areas surrounding them.
@lian I loosened some of my sutures by thumb-pulling every few hours.
@eddiemoney What are you basing what you said on? There's plenty of contrary evidence on animals showing masticatory muscles have important role...
@lelehorizon12 Muscle hyperplasia is thought to be impossible. As for your issue, it's likely that apart from chewing your overall arch-width or b...
There's certain muscles that pulses the cranial fluid. Also the heart is able to pump that fluid as well with pressure differentials. Also there...
About 36mm ICW, 42MM IMW seems to be the norm.
@progress Hey, Progress, I agree there is bad and good clenching, however I disagree that just because the temporalis is made for postural funct...
Yeah, but what type of clenching? Obviously you can clench in different directions achieving different effects. Clenching shouldn't damage the teeth a...
Hello, TGW, great post. One potential way the sphenoid and the maxilla are perhaps able to grow is via the superior lateral pterygoids. These pterygoi...
@lelehorizon12 Yeah for sure, just stop chewing and you'll be fine. Also note that mewing will increase your palate width which will probably makes ...
@aureliusacolyte Yeah I had the same happen to me, this is because too much chewing either jams the TMJ or stretches it out.
Not sure, I don't really count anymore, I don't get any widening anymore I've been at it for years now. Yes, I did get visible widening of the face...
Mewing does shorten the front palate, mainly by forcing it forward. I've had this happen, I went to about 35mm mew indicator.
My current opinion: Swallowing properly with force > Mewing. Tongue should be resting as forward and upward as possible without force(butterfly tou...
That's because those appliances are made for functionality such as improved breathing. Aesthetically wise it would be best to expand the front palate....
@mafiagang What about the devastating effect of shortening the face on the skin around it? The skin becomes saggy and thick, no? Also have you c...
This is a very interesting point actually. Assuming what you say is true: 1) Maxilla will be pulled backwards, along with the whole palate. ...
This isn't a bad thread, but it's based on too much theory. The problem with jutting or keeping your teeth together is that you're more likely to just...
It went away after like three weeks.
Doesn't line up with the symptoms. It's clear and watery. It doesn't go to my nose at all, if anything my nose feels drier. There is no coughing or wh...
Why does the bone need to grow? Why can't it simply re-model it's own shape and stretch out forward?
I took pictures from multiple angles though, they are all in original post.