I started treatment at 24. Male. And by forwards my DNA appliance maxed out at 5mm on the saggital spring. I assume this means my mandible has come fo...

I didn't use AGGA (although my dentist also uses this appliance with some patients). Instead, I used the DNA appliance and got about 7.5mm lateral exp...

Your palate is undoubtedly wider and your jaw looks stronger. Did you have the Y-plate upper DNA appliance? You don't seem to mention any forward expa...

I suspect they can, if designed poorly. I happen to believe part of the space AGGA creates is also through pushing some teeth backwards (but that is n...

Have you considered something less invasive like the DNA appliance or Homeoblock to try and expand before MSE?

@toomer When I mentioned jaws of course I also meant TMJs (which is probably the most important thing I should've explicitly stated!) Thank you f...

@phoenixrising It's been a long journey to really understand how everything in the human body is somehow correlated, as I'm sure it has been for man...

The progress you've made looks great. I have looked through your blog and have bookmarked it for future reference. You're a great writer and I enjoy...

If you get clear aligners or braces the gum recession may only get worse. It's still worth speaking to a professional though - I would suggest a denti...

Some providers of FAGGA may also provide the DNA appliance which is gentler on teeth. Instead of going the FAGGA+CAB route I specifically asked my den...

Your under eye area shows more support now which is great!

Yes there is a correlation between CFD and speech problems. I used to sing a lot as a child and could sing and speak freely until I got braces in my l...

Just an update on my experience so far: my under eye support has improved so much when I smile! I still get smile lines of course, but they are less p...

You could also combine DNA with controlled arch braces which is what I'm currently doing. The DNA appliance made space and to close the gaps my dentis...

My Y-plate stopped expanding at 5mm forward, and laterally 1cm. I do wish the forward plate could go further, but we're using CAB to correct inward ti...

Are there any other pictures you could share? The moulds show pretty good results.

@elledron Like Sergio-OMS said you may still find orthodontists who are open to the idea of non-extraction still at 14 years old, so it's worth book...

If you live in southern England you could try the son of the OG himself - Mike Mew?

@toomer Some nights, yes. But I don't anymore. I do however usually have to pee first thing when I wake up in the morning, but that might just be be...

@toomer There were still pre-existing functional issues to address from 3(!) rounds of prior braces. I was left with an open bite on my left side du...

@mysterecessed I wore the actual appliance from late April until October last year. Since October I've been in braces to try and align my upper and ...

Your head also tilts forward a lot which could be remedied by improved tongue posture. But I don't imagine you have enough space in the roof of your m...

@mysterecessed Yes, I have noticed improvements in under eye support but more so when I smile. I still have smile lines but they're not as pronounce...

@thomas22 You have a similar problem to what I have by the looks of it, so when I try to put my teeth together there is a larger overhang on one sid...

Definitely looks like you've had some progress. The under eye area lines aren't so prominent meaning you're getting more nitric oxide through nasal br...

@toomer I didn't realise Dr Liao was your provider. Yes in the end I decided to ask for CAB even though I know it's generally used for AGGA cases....

I've finished with the DNA appliance about two months now and interestingly my practitioner and I decided to do controlled arch braces to close up the...

@drunkwithcoffee The link you posted didn't work for me. Just an update on my progress: I didn't realise that the maximum forward expansion ...

They both have average palates to me. And Ana looks like she may have had crowns or some type of dental enhancement to her teeth so can't really evalu...

First of all, no need to be so hard on yourself. Majority of people in 'civilised' countries have underdeveloped faces and many of the people we see i...

To be honest I think the changes in adults from mewing tend to be far more subtle yet effective over a longer period of time. I think he will look mor...

Having the wisdom teeth removed should not have too much of an impact but it will result in a weaker jaw from all the cases I've seen. In any case, it...

I think that's a good plan that he has proposed. Self-ligating braces can offer some degree of arch expansion and may be the way to go as your case do...

It's definitely clear your maxilla grew downwards from the initial x-rays. I think you would benefit from an ALF appliance, but my suggestion is you g...

As I did not have a lower appliance, as my lower jaw has come forward I have developed a pretty steep open bite where my back molars are. But I believ...

Both systems can offer expansion depending on the provider. Provided no teeth are extracted in the process, it will likely improve the aesthetics of y...

It's interesting. I certainly do not believe that all pain is bad pain. But I must admit that the past few times I have turned my appliance I have fel...

That’s good to hear you are noticing those improvements! I’ve noticed pretty similar improvements myself. I’ve also finally passed the 5mm milestone...

Have you had any consultations with an orthodontist? My advice would be to work with someone who offers a palate expander such as the DNA appliance...

@Thomas22 Your upper appliance is a Y-plate, yes? Lately I've been wondering why it seems like I have 4mm of lateral expansion on my appliance, wher...

@thomas22 I forgot to mention, sounds like you’ve had some good progress too. I do wonder about my lower jaw. Sometimes when I expand the appliance ...

@thomas22 It’s so funny. Literally after I mentioned the whether the appliance helps with cants or not I feel like I’ve noticed it actually helping ...

According to my appliance, I have now finally hit the 4mm mark of expansion laterally. My dentist thinks I only need one more month with the appliance...

@thomas22 Have you noticed any pain in your lower jaw even if you don’t have the lower appliance in? For some reason the last few weeks I have been ...

Here John Mew explains why he doesn’t have many X-rays of patients. Also regarding Helmutsrebl’s case: seems like a mixture of mewing and probably ...

@thomas22 Yes, it will be interesting to see how much you’ve expanded and how much relapse there might be during this 4 week period. What do you g...

@thomas22 That’s annoying that they require both to be returned. What if you lose some of the expansion you’ve obtained? Or has your dentist made yo...

@thomas22 Is that just the lower appliance?

@paperbag One thing I have found super interesting is that the DNA appliance seems to be correcting the tilting of teeth from previous orthodontic w...

I’m inclined to agree with Progress. It seems like you have a similar problem to me, where orthodontics made my alveolar ridge more narrow to the po...

I have had to shave down the acrylic several times now myself as it has been consistently cutting into my soft tissue since the last 2-3 turns. I have...

Filler dissolving after a few short years is a myth. There were studies done showing that people who had filler injected 10 years prior still had most...

I don’t think Astro’s palate will get much more expansion. From his recent videos it looks like his tongue sits pretty well in it already, which at th...

It looks like you have a similar issue that I do - only in reverse. Your right side (left in the picture) looks slightly more forward and developed th...

@thomas22 A mild hyperbaric chamber?! That’s very cool. Have you used it much during your DNA treatment? I know with Acceledent it’s meant to be u...

The way I view it is she was clearly growing in the incorrect way before she changed her posture. I think her overbite decreased pretty significantly,...

Posted by: @thomas22 I imagine it does both. Anything that would stimulate the jaws would probably help speed up tooth movement if you’re undergo...

Ah so it was from the lower appliance...I see. You have been eating with the appliance in? I didn’t even think it was possible - at least not with ...

@thomas22 I’m sorry to hear that! Is that sprain from the DNA appliance? I haven’t had any issues yet with mine, except the acrylic needs to be sh...

I would avoid anything that requires teeth to be extracted, including wisdom teeth extractions if you can help it. Most people I have seen seem to hav...