Orthodontist Bill Hang discusses this study with otolaryngologist Dr Steven Park on his podcast episode Can Orthodontics Cause Obstructive Sleep Apnea...

Hmmm... I don't know what's going on. I see my blog post from yesterday just contradicted my assertion from 5 months ago that my screw isn't winding i...

lol. They've set the bar pretty low, so it wouldn't be that hard.

@toomer just kindly pointed me to this recent publication of a case report of a pre-molar extraction victim who developed severe OSA, which cites Lars...

@blackbear I get that you're passionate about this cause and want orthodontists to change their behaviour. I want that too, so could you please stop l...

Vivos have a provider locator, but only two of the Australian providers are listed, so I made a list of Australian DNA Appliance Providers I'm aware o...

The progress photos I've seen online of AGGA+CAB show massive flaring of the teeth after AGGA, and then CAB pulling them back in. To me, this is a red...

Hmmm... interesting. I'm learning a lot here, so thanks @ThaGangsta for kickstarting the discussion. This post also covers research I did on intermi...

@apollo I generally stick to the one-turn-per-week schedule on both when I don't have an impingement, and my lower appliance is lagging behind the u...

That's a really interesting question @apollo; I've always wondered what MSE users do about their mandible. I turn my lower mRNA appliance one 1/4mm ...

Yes @toomer, I’ve been doing these myofunctional therapy exercises for obstructive sleep apnea that I found on YouTube twice a day religiously. Roge...

I haven't seen any research showing the effects of cycling at the extraordinarily low frequency that Dr. Miraglia recommends, which works out to be ar...

I'm curious about one thing here: while DOME/SMARPE/MSE-with-Surgical-Assist reduces the risk of expander failure, I wonder if it also reduces the pot...

I'm struck by the irony of you asking other people on an online forum not to make health decisions based on conference presentations from leading expe...

I totally hear where you're coming from. I wouldn't mind a faster solution myself, but I also wasn't keen on needing braces again to fix the diastema ...

Dr. Singh made the comment that DNA doesn't do palate expansion during his Sydney presentation in 2019 that I attended, and when I questioned him on i...

You'll get the effect that Dr Moon seeks: bone growth at the inter-maxillary suture via distraction osteogenesis, but you won't get the effect that Dr...

MSE does distraction osteogenesis at the suture, and DO appears to involve bone remodelling as part of the repair process according to this poster; it...

I have a different interpretation @toomer. I think the reason why the pharyngeal area is expanding with MSE is because it rotates each side of the e...

Thanks for asking. I've just passed the two month mark using my mRNA Appliance and posted this update on my blog today. The summary is that I've recei...

@mr-sand-man123 I don't much care about the change in his appearance personally. For me the take-home message is that his myriad of chronic health c...

Thanks for your question and the opportunity to clarify my understanding with you. I get that you are worried about this, but I'm not. Here's why: T...

That's a pretty compelling video. Here's one for the Homeoblock denialists:

So that when the muscles of the jaw relax completely during sleep, the resting position of the lower jaw is far enough forwards to keep the airway ope...

I'm about 4 weeks in. It's early days yet, but it's going OK, thanks for asking. My next step is getting a facemask going. I'll post an update when I ...

I don’t “swear by Vivos” but I did choose a “so-called” mRNA to treat my OSA after doing a lot of research to decide what option was best for me. Yes,...

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it and appreciate the cheers; I can hear them from here. I expect that a youngster who is properly treated with any ...

@cliffbars I can't see any reason why Biobloc couldn't work on adults, but it's a more basic device than the DNA appliance(s) and I haven't seen any...

Yes. It appears to be aimed largely at children, and I'm an adult. Dr Singh, the inventor of the mRNA appliance I'm using, is one of the co-authors ...

@cliffbars I'm about to start the same thing with my mRNA, as soon as I can work out how to get Forwardontics to ship a Bow to me here in Australia....

I'm glad you've finally mentioned science, and note that you haven't cited any. You'll find the side-by-side scans in publications about DNA applian...

You're assuming that DNA is going to fail. Obviously if that's your starting point, it's not going to look very appealing to you. I do agree though th...

I've come to pretty much exactly the same conclusion @toomer. All I would add is that at MMA works better when preceded by DOME/MSE (I wish I could fi...

@toomer The ENT I saw said I would need my wisdom teeth removed to make space for the cuts. I was like: "More extractions? I don't think so... that'...

@floatingcloud Orthodontic literature is not all it's cracked up to be, and what you call "other theories" are the in fact, the scientific consensus...

Your argument is not supported by the scientific literature on bone growth/remodelling. This is pure unfounded speculation, which takes us full-circle...

Thanks @JeanetteG. I met Jalal Khan at a presentation that Dr Singh gave in Sydney in November 2019, and have seen him to get fitted with a Vivos mRNA...

@toomer Yes, that's my understanding: they were just using existing records and didn't even contact any of the patients to confirm their assumptions...

Hey @archtecture, I'm sorry to hear what you're going through. That sounds like hell. I also get a lot of nervous system problems which I now think ...

Hi Jeannette, Thanks for the tip-off. I'm also in Sydney and considering Vivos to treat my severe sleep apnea. Could you give us some more details o...

I can only speculate based on what I've read but what I was thinking when I talked about "relapse" was that tooth-borne expanders mainly move teeth th...

Thanks for your post. I'm wondering whether to go with DOME or MSE, so you're experience is really helpful. In this video, Mike Mew says: “If you go r...

I'm also eagerly following Smash Face Jimbo's progress, but I'm a little wary. I would attribute the rapid early improvement in his sleep apnea to the...

Could you clarify what you mean by this @entelechy? Osteogenesis literally means "development and formation of bone", so if bone is growing as a resul...

Thanks for weighing in. It's awesome having an actual dentist contributing here. Since Vivos isn't available in Australia yet, one of my options is ge...

Yes, my AHI was 49 in my first sleep study. 5 months of didgeridoo playing brought it down to 39 and an MAD took it to 31; but it's still severe and I...

Thanks for clarifying Nikki; and for sharing your story with us. It's really helpful.

@mr-sand-man123 I'm totally with you. Please keep me/us informed with what you learn in the sleep study and anything else you discover. It is all pret...

Thanks again. My orthodontist recommended I get DOME+MMA and referred me to a local ENT surgeon who I believe does it. I'll ask him more at my appoint...

@noctilucentnikki Thanks Nikki. I appreciate you taking the time to reply. One other thing I'd like to ask: Am I correct in assuming that you didn't h...

Thanks for your question! I'm actively researching this right now and visiting a lot of specialists to fully explore my options. I visited orthodontis...

Thanks @entelechy. This is really helpful to me. I'm seeking palate expansion in the hope of treating my severe sleep apnea, and I want to minimise th...

Can you please ask them if and why DOME surgery is preferable to corticopuncture as demonstrated here: Thanks, Graham

Thanks for this thread @JimmyB. I'm a 51 yo male looking at doing this to open my airway in the hope of curing my severe sleep apnea. How long do you ...

Thanks so much for posting this thread and sharing your experience on your blog Nikki. I have underdeveloped jaws and nasal obstruction causing severe...

Anyone know of any DNA Appliance practitioners in Sydney, and/or Australia? Dr Singh is coming to Sydney on Thursday this week to give a talk at The S...