Interesting, reminds me of helmutstrebl's before-after aligned at the forehead: Many landmarks are static, but between your superimposition of th...
Are you sure it's your digastric muscle being activated when you are suction holding? Try suction holding and put your finger under your jaw and see i...
In the last few days, I've found that as I bite backwards, if I adjust my bite in a certain way, I can minimize activation of the masseters while main...
I don't know how accurate that scientist/artist's interpretation of a Paleolithic teen is, considering they only had the skull to base the soft tissue...
You know, this synergy between temporalis pattern and lip seal is interesting. Lip seal makes me think of the proclined incisors we were talking about...
The mid-palatal suture? I don't know, does the midpalatal suture actually protrude downwards from the palate, and form a ridge? But yeah, the same spo...
@eddiemoney Yeah, that makes sense. I think the ultimate goal should be a balance. I shouldn't have said the curve of spee is absolutely gone, because...
Makes sense, thanks. By the way, are you still able to engage solely the temporalii and not the masseters at all when biting along the temporal vector...
@Progress Do you think chewing (dynamic, intermittent load) vs gentle clenching (static, intermittent load) makes a difference in how the bone reacts ...
That's interesting to hear. For me, when I have my teeth together along the temporal vector and my tongue suctioned up, my lip seal strengthens greatl...
@Progress Do you think that most people require CCW rotation or CW rotation of the temporal bones? Or does it depend on the case? Because in modern po...
@progress What role do you think the lateral and medial pterygoid play? If you view the temporal bone rotation as the originator of this favorable cra...
What's interesting is that the incisor uprighting seen in Orthotropics only occurs in children, and not in adults. This is the reason why Orthotropics...
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. It definitely underscores the limitations of appliances, as well as the unique strength of the tongue in shaping th...
I remember when I first saw this result, I thought it was absolutely incredible in terms of mandibular change and growth of the chin. His whole face g...
@progress That's an interesting theory. I definitely agree that a major part of CFD for many is a lack of alveolar development. For instance, look at ...
Interesting how, for both, it doesn't really look like any "upswing" has occurred. In fact for the second result, which seems much more dramatic to me...
Oh, by the way, I just remembered that yesterday I noticed when I turn my head to look left and right over and over(like when shaking my head no), I h...
I started out with a relatively wide palate (41 mm), yet a low tongue posture/Class 3 edge-to-edge bite. What I suspect is that I had a proper swallow...
There's some interesting research into the type of chewing and its effect on bone structure in this paper (). It talks about the anterior dental loadi...
Yeah, agreed. I think it's mainly muscle usage and signaling that guides bone growth and remodeling. And different muscles have different functions. L...
@eddiemoney Do you have an antegonial notch? What's your gonial angle? And do you have an example of a Class 3 with CCW rotated maxilla and short faci...
Yeah, seems like the upwards and backwards direction results in almost pure temporalis activation just because that vector is along the temporal muscl...
I can only speak for myself as a Class 3, but I’ve found that biting upwards and backwards with the premolars and canines allows me to engage the temp...
Does it feel like a temporary change in pressure, as if something was about to unwind? If so I have felt it too. Yes, like something is trying to unfu...
Also, I wonder what the optimal duration and force of engaging the temporal pattern during resting posture is. Is it simply a matter of strengthening ...
So in some sense, the temporalii and masseters could be thought of as antagonistic muscles, in that an imbalance in either of them affects the other a...
Very interesting take. I have a couple of questions I was hoping you could clarify: 1. How does this theory account for the reduced dental arch length...
@eddiemoney Do you see a connection between higher intermolar width and edge-to-edge bite? I'm asking because I had intermolar width of 41mm and edge ...
Interesting how he has a seemingly wide palate yet narrow face...
Oh - by intermittent pressure, I meant you turn the screw once a day, so in that sense it’s intermittent. The opposite would be gradual, where the app...
For my details: I’m seeing an orthotropist near me, and the bulk of the treatment includes expansion with a Biobloc Stage 1 upper and lower appliance,...
@sinned Mandible has no suture through its middle dividing it into 2 halves like the maxilla, so rate isn’t as important...You can either go at the sa...
@niccistar 1/16 is the amount the periodontal membrane on your tooth regenerates each day. Since you have teeth on the left and teeth on the right, yo...
@paperbag Yes, I wore the palate expanders(upper and lower) for slightly less than 2 months, as that’s all the expansion I needed. My occlusion change...
Yeah, of course... John Mew talks about it in his book, and my experiences matched up with what he said. Basically, the periodontal membrane attaching...
@paperbag I’ve gone through expander therapy and can confirm that, if you expand at precisely 1/8mm per day, the expansion is skeletal(I can explain t...
@admin What do you think about Harvold's experiments where the maxilla changed shape/position unfavorably in growing and nongrowing monkeys(at the sam...
@admin What you're saying about the downward component of growth being there, but the anteroposterior(front-back) component not being there, makes sen...
@EddieMoney So is the suction on the soft palate both necessary and sufficient for CCW rotation of the maxilla? And hence favorable facial shortening ...
@jawshrunk123 You don’t really need the lower arch to expand to get your lower molars to erupt...they are intruded because you tongue hangs out betwee...
Orthotropics youtube channel has some good videos explaining the how and why of deep bites, and how they often result in partially erupted 2nd molars....
@achillespalate It means interpupillary distance, the distance between your pupil in the left eye and your pupil in the right eye. Pupil is the black ...
One thing that the LIPUS studies found to be important was the frequency of the vibrations. The US in LIPUS stands for ultrasonic, or higher frequency...
@admin Did you ever hear anything back about the LIPUS device and its utility in softening sutures? Regarding the toothbrush discussion, I think the f...
He was commenting regarding Astrosky’s mewing video and his progress from age 16-22. So at the very least his advice was intended for young adults, wh...
@admin I’m curious as to what kind of work is being done to figure out how to signal to the body to remodel/correct improper growth? Are there any ort...
Found this comment from John Mew on the Facebook group, I think it shows the importance of having the lower jaw in a proper position.
@GreekGodBrody How did you lower your vaulted palate, with thumb pulling or mewing? If thumbpulling, how was your technique? Also, how much IMW incr...
It seems to me the gonial angle decreased a lot, do you see that? Or is it just me?
Another question I had: is the Bow able to achieve autorotation of the maxilla? I believe that is the rotation of the back part of the maxilla in addi...
Ah, makes sense - thank you!
@scerif That is correct, according to what I gathered from Abdulrahman. He goes into detail here:/p>
A lot of the measurements I found are covered here on Abdulrahman’s blog:/p>
My nasolabial angle looks good, about 90-100 degrees, but then my cheek line is flat, and it seems I need about 4-5 mm forward growth of the midface t...