You can get soft tissue improvement of the mentalis and improving inclination of the teeth so that the chin comes forward relative to the position of ...
@le_fort_or_bust Yes, "I would only add yet another couple observations: 1. The acrylic pad on the anterior palate increases anchorage in that ar...
If light forces worked people would have results, you would go to the orthotropics subreddit and see amazing before and afters, you would see amazing ...
Won Moon says 3 mm for an adult, I'd say you're fully grown or close to it so 3 mm, maybe mm more. It appears as though it moves the entire maxil...
@chris123 Hard mewing, but even that is not enough probably, the tongue isn't that strong.
@chris123 My opinion has changed since then. Yes, I do think that it's the front of the tongue that causes upswing/forward growth, but I don't think...
@meowxilla It's probably because hard mewing pushes the mandible back and down (when your hardmewing you're usually pushing the tongue up and forwar...
@meowxilla Don't chin tuck, stop having teeth in contact. Chin tucking impinges the internal jugular vein, and teeth contact leads to clenching and ...
@thebeastpanda Aesthetic wise, maxilla is more important, yes, a good jaw on a man is aesthetic but that's dependent on the maxilla. If you have a r...
@thebeastpanda Just don't fatigue the muscle too much I guess. If you fatigue the jaw muscles too much you won't be able to chew with as much force.
@krollic Buccinators are supposed to be used in that manner, they keep food against the teeth so they can be broken down. Buccinator atrophy is a co...
It will probably not cause forward growth. 1. Not enough force 2. It's anchored to the molars, the forward force of the appliance also pushes the ...
@toomer Here's a study that's cited in the one I linked, they use the same amount of force and time each day; "for 10 minutes/day over 12 days wi...
@apollo @greyham The image comparing MSE to RPE, is it before the suture split? Where does the force go when the suture splits and the other sutur...
@greyham "you can see tremendous bone strain with the tooth borne expander", which sounds like a bad thing, "... but with MSE all the strain or forc...
@thebeastpanda What's more important is the underlying bone structure. For example, if you have an asymmetry which gives you TMJ problems it's not g...
Honest opinion, your face looks fine to me, only your teeth are messed up. I think the most glaring problem tbh is the missing tooth and not your bite...
@thebeastpanda Generally it isn't a good idea to push teeth, but pushing teeth isn't bad if the teeth are in the wrong position, in the case of an o...
Overbite or overjet? I think with an overbite you could theoretically fix it pushing the tongue against the teeth and using the incisors when chewing,...
@drunkwithcoffee Gaps form with agga due to the nature of the device. It's anchored onto the molars, so it's only natural that a gap will form from ...
Yes, I firmly believe this is how you get forward growth, the problem with agga is that it anchors to the molars giving the characteristic agga gap. T...
@thebeastpanda Just for example, if your face is more recessed, you'll probably use more temporalis than masseter, if you are more forward grown the...
@robbie343 I agree, the only thing that can really change how the muscles activate is the jaws position. I can see how the jaw muscles activate diff...
@cliffbars I think it would work. Another thing that could possibly help to make MSE work better is opening the screw by a large amount for a short ...
@chiefkeefsosa My chin is more prominent, slightly straighter teeth, no noticeable changes in the cheekbones. I hardmewed for about 2 months or so a...
@basim The tongue can produce 9 psi of force posteriorly, the anterior tongue can produce around 6 psi of force. Here's studies on how much ...
@backtriggs lum1s#5337 I forgot to respond, I don't use discord much.
@cliffbars @Basim I still support mewing but my opinions changed a bit since then, posture affects structure just as much as structure affects postu...
@toomer I don't understand people who say adult sutures are fused, if they were being honest they would say they are more fused/ossified than a chil...
@chiefkeefsosa I got minor improvements in the soft tissue of my chin, but I've honestly given up a few times for a couple days because hard mewing ...
@chiefkeefsosa This studied used 500 g on rhesus monkeys, it references other studies where they use 300-800g of force, and even 2-6 pounds of fo...
If you suction hold then no, but if you hard mew it could flare up TMD. I've experienced it personally, when I'm hard mewing, the force of my tongue l...
@backtriggs Feel your adam's apple when you swallow, hold at the peak of the swallow, you won't be able to breathe. Do the same thing, but instead o...
Having a frenulum is normal, if it doesn't inhibit movement of the lip then it's fine. You can check for a tongue tie by opening your mouth 3 fingers ...
@wickedfinger I'm of the opinion you should do whatever you can to grow/expand the maxilla and get room for the tongue. The resting posture should b...
@lawnmewer It doesn't matter what I do, if my teeth touch the masseters are contracting, if your jaw is at rest and the teeth touch then it's probab...
Teeth apart, when your jaw muscles are at rest your teeth are apart, a lip seal and suction hold prevents the mouth from opening.
@fluffycutecat Could cause tension and headaches maybe.
You can use a neck brace.
@toomer That sounds interesting, are there any resources you can link which discusses how the DNA works? Also, are you currently undergoing DNA trea...
@robbie343 It's not the suture split itself that makes face mask effective, it's the loosening/activation of all the sutures in the maxilla. 500-150...
Chewing + forward growth, the more forward grown you are the longer the ramus and more acute the gonial angle is usually Here's an example, left...
@azrael Yes, I think the more force the faster the maxillary movement to a point. The issue is the tongue fatigues, and this explain why hardmewing ...
How did you come to 150-250N of force for thumbpulling? Here's a study on maximum tongue protrusion force(males: 17.8 ± 3.7 N; females: 14.7 ± 3.5 N, ...
It could be because the expansion is causing your teeth to shift, expansion gives more room for the teeth and they start shifting in place, or maybe t...
@bimapro Myobrace for adults will just tip the teeth. As for cost, it's similar to braces in that it can range, you're paying for the personalized t...
MSE + Facemask, Ronald Ead has many videos on MSE. Or you can go with the slower option that doesn't split the suture, DNA appliance, her...
Good video, genetics can influence greatly how malocclusion/CFD is expressed, but is is very rarely the cause.
@toomer I'm talking about the one @mysterecessed linked
@mysterecessed Those kind of expanders (RPE) are probably the worst. They only work on younger people, I'd guess the oldest that it would be effecti...
@flixo Jawliner and chisell look fine, jawzrsize looks like a good way to get TMD.
All I want to say is don't do AGGA, there is great risk for damage. There are better alternatives (MSE + facemask). FAGGA doesn't really have any evid...
@crimsonchin It's pretty self explanatory, I'd caution to not push forward on the teeth. I made that mistake initially and my front teeth became sor...
@crimsonchin It doesn't, that's because the idea of the maxilla going "up" is completely wrong and not actually how the maxilla grows. What actually...
@meowxilla Astro looks the same? Just look at his cheekbones in the 3/4th view, he's gotten insane lateral expansion. Same type of expansi...
Just keep mewing and thumbpulling and monitor the wisdom tooth, if you start getting pain there you'll need to consider getting it removed unfortunate...
