I’m older than you. My palate is 4mms wider, and my lower jaw has moved forward 4mms. My airway is more than 50% larger. Measurements based on X-ray s...
The palate expander improvements are measurable, your zygote might grow 2mms, for example. In pictures you just have the sense that the after photos a...
I don’t think mewing works. Or at least, you can’t mew your way out of this Everyone should mew, naturally, the people who don’t, like me, have a...
Oh, it also opened up my right Eustachian tube which had been a problem since I was a child.
I’m generally happy with my appliance. Because of work, I don’t wear it for 12 to 16 hours a day, and so it’s going slower. I may be wearing it fou...
If you have poor tongue posture it’s probably because of a tongue tie. I don’t think you can correct maxilla issues as an adult without some kind o...
Your best bet is simply correcting your oral posture with a device, like the Vivos appliance (which repositions your jaw) and then letting time work i...
I assume the rest of the face will slowly remodel after MSE expansion.
Did it predate your MSE? Is that possible?Dr. Belfor has scans of his Homeoblock patients, that show changes in the sphenoid. The sphenoid grows with ...
@lovelifetobits100 I suspect lower appliances are unnecessary. Your lower jaw will probably remodel to match your upper.
@s1m0 38.5mm
I started hyperbaric treatment this week for unrelated reasons. Hyperbaric medicine does many things, but it also mobilizes stem cells and speeds u...
I have a short mid face, because of a tongue tie. I make good contact with my forward palate, but the tie prevents contact with the rear of the ...
My maxilla is rotated counter clockwise, and so I asked about it. My provider was cautious about making any promises, but he said that if it does c...
Changes creep up on you. My face is very symmetrical now. I don't have normal forward growth, especially compared to my siblings, but hopeful...
I don't think you have much control over how you sleep. You'll change posture when you fall asleep, and continue to shift through the night. Stomach...
@toomer It varies from mild pressure, to light pain. The pain runs in a straight line, right down my nasal bone to where it meets the cartilage....
The pressure in the bridge if my nose is becoming stronger. I have no idea whats happening, mechanically, is the cartilage shifting? Is the nasal bo...
For the record, how much forward growth is the Y Appliance capable of? Physically, I can expand my appliance by at least a one cm. The provide...
I don't think so. The provider will physically adjust the appliance when you visit. They might bend this piece, or that. My provider has me come in ...
In nine months of treatment, my IMW has gone from 38mm to 41mm. It doesn't appear like it's going to stop anytime soon either. I don't feel any resist...
I had asked my provider when I would be finished with expansion. They said I would eventually stop responding to the appliance. That at some point, ex...
Don't forget to panic!
Good luck! If I could go back to the start, I would take monthly photos. And I would buy a medical caliper to measure my facial width pre treatment.
The lower appliance also makes my face look more proportional, because of the way it moves my mandible forward.
I’d forgotten how much a difference the lower appliance makes. When I woke up this morning, it felt like someone had replaced my spine with rebar. ...
@apollo I would like to believe that changing one dimension, palate width, would result in corresponding changes across the facial complex.
The plastic shelf is perhaps 2mm to 3mm higher on the left side. So when I bite down, the appliance is lopsided. Higher on the left, lower on the ...
@toomer I was instructed not to advance my lower for the first three weeks. The doctor said we needed to "unravel" my lower jaw. Which makes sen...
I tripped over a comment by Ira Shapira. He said that one of the reasons he likes the dna appliance is because it will drop the roof of your mou...
@toomer The overlay isn’t flat on my appliance. It’s raised on one side to create a bite block. I don't know if it's as effective as Homeoblock...
Despite what you read, the DNA Appliance does have a bite block on one side of the lower appliance. Perhaps that's a factor.
@mysterecessed Vivos made me a new lower appliance which I have not expanded at all, yet. If it was fully expanded, it would expand 6mm.
@mysterecessed The lower appliance stopped fitting after three months of treatment. It took a long time to get it replaced. Mostly due to issues on...
@mysterecessed No I've only worn the upper appliance for six months total, and the bottom appliance three months. And that may be part of it. Bu...
@mr-mewing I like those scans, you can just see how the bones are too far back. No one ever spoke about dreaming when I began treatment, but it...
My provider fixed my lower appliance, and I'm wearing it again for the first time since April 2020. One thing that's odd. It doesn't center your l...
This is what my airway looked like before treatment.
I don't snore anymore. And I dream again. I haven't dreamed since I was a kid. I'm doing a sleep test in a few weeks and I'll share my numbers...
It's your lower jaw
@toomer When I was 12 my orthodontist glued my front teeth together, so they would look "good". When I started treatment with the DNA Appliance, my...
@toomer Yes This will take some visual thinking to imagine. I have a cross bite, my jaws are at an angle to each other, so if the fins are ad...
Stray observation The fins on the DNA Appliance hold your jaw forward, but they also rotate it.
Within the first hour. It's a recent development. Have you considered surgery, when you finish treatment? I have a diastema
One theory? Maybe my septum is straightening out. Perhaps the pressure from the appliance moves things, just enough, so that it starts to straighten...
My nose opens up when I wear the appliance in the evening. I have no idea what's going on, but it is much easier to breathe through my nose when I'...
This provider has his adult patients on a two week expansion cycle, and cautions that the lower appliance might need to be expanded even more slowly.
@toomer potentially 2mm, I would need to wind it back all the way to see. As far as the pressure goes, it’s one sided. I feel it on my left, but no...
@toomer Let me see if I have a measuring tape. It feels like compression. I passed my one year mark. But with everything, I’m probably at the six...
When I started treatment I felt pressure on my nose bridge. I still feel that when I wear the appliance, but I’m also feeling pressure along the lower...
@toomer I was probably eight the first time I performed self surgery. I had gravel embedded in my knee from a fall, and so I took a penknife and cut i...
A white tissue grew over the wound within a day. It looks almost like cartalige. Pale white and nearly translucent I noticed this morning that it ...
For laser treatment, I was quoted 570. The said it might be lower when they did the final total. It is a medical procedure, and it can be covered by...
@toomer I think I'm breathing more easily too.
@pizzaman500 I think it feels more natural. But again I don't trust my judgement. It does feel like the back of my tongue is making contact wit...
I think it improved my posture, but I don't trust my judgement. I could be wishing that into reality.
Dr. Bennett in Utah preaches myofunctional therapy, before and after cutting a tongue tie. The surgeon I saw here said it just wouldn't regrow, and ...
I think my default tongue position has changed. It’s shifted left. The left side of my face is underdeveloped. Since having the tongue tie cut, I’v...
My voice has changed. It sounds better. I assume the restricted tongue movement was preventing what should have been my normal speech. I was playin...
