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Tongue touching molars while mewing. Please help. [18M]

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(@dragonshark)
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I've been mewing(proper oral posture) for 10 months now.

My palate has gone from U shape to a bit flared U and now 10-12 visible teeth (depending on lighting) on upper arch( Idont have wisdom teeth on the upper one yet) and all 14+1(wisdom) teeth from lower arch are visible when I smile. I have made progress since my teeth are better visible when I smile and the alveolar ridge surely has changed.

The front part of my upper palate has been wide and so my tongue rests there perfectly without touching the teeth and has contact only with the alveolar ridge.

Main Concern: My tongue touches my molars as the back area my palate still has not expanded out to the point where it only touches the alveolar ridge. I already have a perfectly normal straight bite and fear that the tongue might cause tipping of molars ruining my bite.

What are your thoughts about this concern ? 

Some additional info:
I'm male, 18 years and 3 months old.  And also aa late bloomer. Afai remember i never had my tongue stuck to the upper palate... It rested somewhere in the middle. I've never mouthbreathed and didn't need braces. I chewed on sufficiently hard food.(raw veggies, meat, nuts) during childhood and puberty. My lower jaw is good too, since I can fit all 4 of my fingers on my submental region. I practice suction hold mewing with occasional hard mewing.
I started mewing as a way to practice proper posture.

Thank You for reading.

Let me know if a picture of my bite/palate is required.


 
Posted : 03/02/2020 10:10 pm
(@j3tze)
Posts: 19
 

It's not a big deal :) I had the same thing starting out and my molars expanded and I now have plenty of space.


 
Posted : 15/02/2020 6:55 pm
(@elwynn)
Posts: 252
 

@j3tze

Similar thing here. At the beginning, I was not able to put my tongue on my palate, except for the very tip. Through a lot of effort I managed to shift my second molars (last teeth, since my third molars are gone), just far enough to put my tongue between them. By that point, I was able to have my posterior third and tip up against the palate, with the middle part hanging down a little. Once I figured out tongue suction, I progressively managed to get more and more of the mid section up, and have literally just today, for the first time, figured out how to get my entire tongue suctioned to my palate. Some of this is due to teeth tipping, but it's very likely that a little bit of expansion has occurred as well, because I have noticed minor aesthetic changes.


24 years old

 
Posted : 15/02/2020 11:40 pm
 gee
(@gee)
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@elwynn

How do you make sure the mid section is touching the palate. That seems to be my problem too. I swallow and hold that position for the posterior third, but not too sure about the middle section. Also, is it normal that when i breathe through my nose it makes lots of snorting/ snoring like noises. Lastly, how important are posture and chewing  in your opinion? 


 
Posted : 21/02/2020 5:53 pm
(@elwynn)
Posts: 252
 

@gee

How do you make sure the mid section is touching the palate. That seems to be my problem too. I swallow and hold that position for the posterior third, but not too sure about the middle section.

Try activating different regions of the tongue separately. Touch your palate with just the tip of your tongue first, and take note of how that feels; then, touch your palate with just the back of your tongue, and take note of how that feels; finally, touch your palate with just the mid-section of your tongue, letting the tip and posterior hang, and take note of how that feels. Afterwards, when you suction the entire tongue to cover your hard and soft palates, you should hopefully be able to distinguish whether the mid-section is making contact.

Also, is it normal that when i breathe through my nose it makes lots of snorting/ snoring like noises.

It's definitely normal for someone starting out, but it's not ideal. Snoring noises can be produced when the back of the tongue is not securely suctioned to the soft palate and vibrates in response to the air passing through the throat; and / or when the tongue obstructs the airway. What you're experiencing is most likely caused by a lacking oral posture, insufficient space, or both. I struggled with the same thing about a year ago, but it gradually went away. The turning point was gaining better control over my posterior third, and learning how to raise my hyoid. These abilities may come with time, as the tongue and other muscles build their strength. If the problem is caused by insufficient space, then there's a possibility that it may also resolve with time, as your soft tissue begins to adapt to the new oral posture. Those types changes I think tend to occur much sooner than any skeletal changes, but they do make a difference. Assuming that breathing while mewing is not too uncomfortable for you, I would give it time to see whether it improves. If it doesn't, I'd try a different approach.

Lastly, how important are posture and chewing  in your opinion? 

In my opinion, back and neck posture is quite important, and it's something that many people tend to disregard. I've neglected this aspect myself, but I am now trying to improve it. There are many threads here on posture, which are very educational, but if there's one advice that I can add, then it is to position your monitor higher, slightly above eye level, so that you don't hunch over or strain your neck downwards when in front of the computer.
 
As for chewing...I'm not really sure. I did it at first, and I definitely saw my masseters build up, but I didn't stick with it for long enough to confirm whether it results in any significant structural changes. I stopped because 1) I was worried that, since I have a retruded mandible, chewing would eventually give me TMJ problems, and 2) doing it daily became a bit of a hassle. I'll probably give chewing another try sometime later, but for now, I'm focused on developing my oral posture. I think that chewing hard foods is generally healthy, but modern humans - most of whom have some variant of CFD should be cautious about it - since it could exacerbate TMJ in some people.

24 years old

 
Posted : 21/02/2020 10:17 pm
(@Anonymous)
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@elwynn

I have this exact same snoring noise. I feel as if I have to stop lifting my hyoid to breathe every time.

Although since the last few months its been a lot easier to keep the posture properly.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 10:19 am
(@elwynn)
Posts: 252
 

@oatmeal

Could it be that you're raising your hyoid too much? I raise it gently, and I'm so used to it that it's nearly effortless. I don't raise my hyoid as high as it can go, because it will then block off my airway. I think it's about getting all the forces acting in and around the mouth in balance.


24 years old

 
Posted : 22/02/2020 11:59 am

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