the chin change looks similar to Helmutstrebl's

That is indeed a solid improvement. Wondering what treatment did he undergone.

Nice post TGW. 

Finally we're starting to see these adult case discussions appear more and more. Undeniable proof this stuff works and isn't fufu science. I feel like this next year is going to be huge on these sort of cases and will literally change the path of orthodontics. Makes me hopeful! 

Do you have any detailed info on what his treatment was?

I'd really like to know more about this one since I was thinking about going for a Bioblock.

Europe is far behind compared to America on these sorta treatments, other than the Mews.. But I can't really afford 500 euros per consultation and possibly having to fly there every month or whatever. 

Was it just biobloc? Or did he use a facemask as he usually always does?

I mentioned I was interested in the bioblock. Can you tell me what the differences between biobloc and bioblock are? 

And this was done something like 10-15 years ago? Just imagine what kind of changes can be gained in the future as we expand our knowledge about orthotropics and facial bone remodeling. Its also highly unlikely this patient was anywhere near as devoted to correcting his posture as many of the forum users here are.

I'm not usually the one acting as a naysayer on progress posts, but his neck posture is way worse in the after photo, which I feel makes it useless as a comparison. In the first photo, it looks like he's performing a chin-tuck. In the second photo, it still looks like he's craning his neck to compensate for a poorly developed airway.

Posted by: TGW

Not doubting any of this progress, but these two photos were taken 3 years apart. With that being said, is it possible that potential weight loss plays a factor in the appearance of change on the after photo. Also, does it appear to anybody that this man is tilting his head backward a bit more in the after photo which can exaggerate results? I don't always have a great eye for this like many of you do, so please take these doubts with a grain of salt.

Posted by: ohwhatthehell

I'm not usually the one acting as a naysayer on progress posts, but his neck posture is way worse in the after photo, which I feel makes it useless as a comparison. In the first photo, it looks like he's performing a chin-tuck. In the second photo, it still looks like he's craning his neck to compensate for a poorly developed airway.

Great points, man... however, I disagree. I believe the neck posture may be the same, the shadow behind him and the extended lower jaw just makes it look far worse...With that being said, his forward neck posture remained even after achieving some ort of upsing in the maxilla and mandible. 

This, IMO, is evidence supporting that he may have had a poor posture initially cause by a tilted pelvis.