How is this different from mse? another addition to the bamp train induced by a fear of mising out on them goods. Meanwhile true maxillary protraction remains elusive to this folks. There is a new study on how ME decreases sleepapnea... not sure about that... if you expand it sideways the tongue will still cover the whole width since it's not restrained... grow it forward and the tongue will be restrained to its new position, since mse creates a bit (2mm) of  true fordward growth how can the whole positives results not be attributed entirely to this? Sometimes I heartily belive the aspies on this kind of forums have a deeper understanding than the phdsdmdsoslekshurattending dudes.

Yeah, DOME requires a threshold of IMW to the placement of the device, probably to be used in very old patients or in extreme cases where the MSE + corticopuncture didn't do the trick, so the patients don't have to be too effed up for it to work but if they aren't then MSE + CP will do the trick right? So the group of patients in need of this just diminished significantly. Definitely an improvement over conventional sarpe though. How many papers there are on DOME? more unpublished circling around fb groups than the couple that have been published, but it's enough to know they are a better alternative.  

Now back on to protraction. What we need is what MSE did for transverse deficiency. Will we have it soon? Definitely not. Moon reports 9mm on one of his patients in the paper of MSE + FM. My guess is this: screws with good support creates massive torque, the craniofacial sutures are now under a lot of stress, and even though this strain is not on the right direction a couple of standard newton of force pulling forward can sort of alineate the growth. Also think of this. Why no one tried more than the conventional 500 of force with facemasks? There is a chinese study that did a LEFORT 3 corticotomy and pull from the nostrils with 3 to 5 kg of force they are the one that reported the most I've seen so far with 8 to 10mm of forward growth in less than a month. No sane person witout a syndrome will get a LF3, so the standard treatment is to use a facemask for a year and achieve  5mm of dentoalveolar growth bc they use point A which right above the damn denture. We got technology that allows us to see to the thoushandth of a mm but will still be using a point where is easier to get a major magnitude and fool the statistics. Hope the moon team gets on this they do good work. 

Watchu mean with chinese having protrusive faces? You mean huge zygomas? Of all ethnicities their faces look the most like a soup bowl... that explains their publishing rate on class iii

Also, the eyes? You mean when people get facemasks or lf1 and the zygos and eyes lag behind? Agree with this, some of the advancements you see online are hideous, sort of  changing retrusion with prognathism, ape mode. side note I always lol'd hard at plato's blog... Tila Tequila? My goodness, he fits the archetype haha

Now, are you on marianna evans payroll? are you marianna evans? some mafia sh1t going on i see her name poppin evriwer

but for real, I like moon and the koreans, the germans, the spaniards the chinese and japanese, they are making good proggress dont care the sex. Some areas have greatly benefitted from women, tendinopathy with jill cook..the most statiscally rigorous studies on alzheimer by that chick and her husband pointing out hsv1 as a major cause along with a gene epo4 or sth why this  angle is not being continued? I don't know, why THIS our particular angle that we are gathering here to solve is not being continued? . So kudos to the one solving this "last" piece. ....i have a speacial ability to branch off really quick Which way to select you ask? IQ? definitely not; selected by others who have done good research? also no, i've seen admirable people (or at least admirable research) do petty stuff to undergraduates. If you truly believe you are onto sth try to make money out of it that would be a good way to autoselect (if u r decently good at market-selling that is.. we all know the story of tesla) lol I hope moon gets his pockets full I really do he solved a lot of problems. 

I was going to make a post a few months ago, but the ammount of questions that have arised since then with no one to answer them set me aback . I wish I had the money or the affiliation to make research.

After being called abrasive and the whole list of synonyms I really like the emollient tag thats all im about

Moon is a handsome man. Whenever i see him i'll tell him howmuch im mirin 

aesthetic justifies itself. but docs don't see this as a good enough reason  to treat their patients, although you can make a strong case of aesthetic=mental health you get killer jaw ur athletes food is gone, incredulous people wont believe me