Hello all,
I wanted to join and say hello to you all and tell you my story, and also to thank you for inspiring my to do something about my situation.
I am 35 years old and when I was about 13 i had braces and 3 teeth removed, 2 upper-premolars (I think) and a lower incisor. I then had braces for about a year and then the old school retainer for 9 months at night. After that my treatment was done.
Over the next few years I always felt something wasn't right. My face/jaw looked small and recessed and when I smiled I didn't show any upper teeth. I also believed I had a big nose and poor forward head posture.
About 4 years ago I decided I wanted to do something about it. I visited a couple of orthodontists and was referred to a couple of hospitals who wanted to break my upper and lower jaws and move them down and forward. However after getting a second opinion I was referred to my current orthodontist who simply said I needed braces.
I am just over a year into wearing damon braces and they have improved my smile somewhat. However I have been following Dr Mike Mew and Sarah Hornsby RDH and learned a lot from them and have started to do the below:
Proper tongue posture - including small bouts of 'hard' mewing
Jawzrsize - 500 to a 1000 reps each day.
Face pulling with shoelace around upper back molars 2 to 3 days a week for 10 sets of 2 minutes.
Posture brace (forward head posture).
I have been doing all this for about 2 months and the changes are happening already. Cheekbones are already more prominent and feel the masseter muscle is more developed. I am hoping in time more upper teeth will show on smile, maxilla will move forward and the manidble will move forward too and eliminate the moderate double chin I have going on.
In time I will post some pictures but for now just wanted to introduce myself. Any questions/suggestions for me please ask. 2 months into this and I look so much better, even my snoring is dying down slowly.
Thanks :-)
Hey do you have any before after pics?
are you going to reverse the extraction braces?, did they give you a palate expander when you had the extractions?
are you going to reverse the extraction braces?, did they give you a palate expander when you had the extractions?
I would love to reverse the extractions but don't think my Ortho wants that, he has dismissed Orthotropics as being Pseudo Science. No palate expander, just my tongue, Jawzrsize etc so far.
As my cheekbones have come forward, do you think it's reasonable to expect my upper jaw/arch to follow suit as they are connected? Love my cheekbones already and hoping it continues. Jawzrsize is a brilliant invention, would have tried the gum as lots of people rave about it but didn't want to damage my braces.
Hey do you have any before after pics?
Will see if my ortho will let me use the pics he took when had braces fitted and if he will take some updated ones in the same light etc
I am in the middle of reversing my extraction from 22 years ago, unfortunately those idiots pulled my teeth out and set my chin and jaws back even though I didn't have crowing or protruding teeth I only had ONE slightly bent tooth after that I had many issues with my looks. Right now I have opened the gaps to 5mm and my chin came forwards by 5mm also, I still have about 3/4mm left. I have to wear a appliance to open the spaces everyday, however the problem with this is I cannot mew sine the acrylic appliance cover the roof of my mouth. I do take the appliance off to eat and chew gum I have molds of my arch and my arch increased in length by 5mm. Funny tho my arch expanded also, I measure my IMW before I started opening the gaps a few months ago and now it increased by 2mm when the gaps were opened at 3mm. I am going to measure my IMW again once I get the next mold which will have 5mm opening in the gaps. I believe moving the palate forwards automatically increases IMW aswell as chewing. I think you will benefit from reversing the extractions if you have had them
How'd you do that plaster??? Wow!
no point in making in these threads without before and after images
no point in making in these threads without before and after images
no point in making in these threads without before and after images
Wonderful contribution........did you not read my earlier post?
I am in the middle of reversing my extraction from 22 years ago, unfortunately those idiots pulled my teeth out and set my chin and jaws back even though I didn't have crowing or protruding teeth I only had ONE slightly bent tooth after that I had many issues with my looks. Right now I have opened the gaps to 5mm and my chin came forwards by 5mm also, I still have about 3/4mm left. I have to wear a appliance to open the spaces everyday, however the problem with this is I cannot mew sine the acrylic appliance cover the roof of my mouth. I do take the appliance off to eat and chew gum I have molds of my arch and my arch increased in length by 5mm. Funny tho my arch expanded also, I measure my IMW before I started opening the gaps a few months ago and now it increased by 2mm when the gaps were opened at 3mm. I am going to measure my IMW again once I get the next mold which will have 5mm opening in the gaps. I believe moving the palate forwards automatically increases IMW aswell as chewing. I think you will benefit from reversing the extractions if you have had them
Impressive - I'm about 39mm.
Impressive expansion with the braces! I also think the facepulling does work too. How do you use the shoe strings???
I myself did MSE to widen the arch and that also brought forward the cheekbones, so I recommend that too.
If anyone can help me out and take this survey on extractions, please do! it's to get the data necessary to put pressure on the ortho industry to do research into reversal and offer it for free to extraction victims. There are many!
https://forms.gle/F5LEdN9ujjiMu4Mt6
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