Reading on Reddit and also on The Great Work , I found many users getting benefits from thumb-pulling. Unfortunately, there is still too much confusion on the subject, so many people not finding clear information give up at the beginning. Given the potential gains from thumb pulling, this post is designed for those people like me who are in a critical situation and therefore have to try something more. So, I think it's essential to establish some key points to finally find a theoretical basis to start doing a routine:
The first important thing to know to start making thumb-pulling properly, is the area of the palate where to push: on the soft palate, in the center on the hard palate or just behind the incisors. There is a specific area of the palate to push depending on your starting situation, so as to make it more effective?
Subsequently, the intensity of thumb-pulling, i.e. strength and duration, should be determined. Many users on The Great Work have written that they practice it about every hour for up to 1-2 minutes, some pushing with maximum force to separate the sutures, others pulling forward to advance the maxilla, still others massaging forward and sideways. Do you think it is more effective to push using as much force as possible for a limited period of time, or with less force but for a longer time? Isn't there a risk of bones opposing remodeling when practicing it with too much force or for too long?
Since a routine will have to be established, there should be days off. How many days a week do you think it would be useful to start practicing it?
These are the main questions that have come to my mind, but of course you can add more. Thanks in advance to all those who will attend
Great thread--I think it's a great idea to try to consolidate info. I'm one of those who tried the massaging outward and sideways approach, and while I think it could be great for children, I've revised my approach after taking a close look at @TGW's image.
Looking at it this way it makes sense to apply pressure on or near the sutures themselves rather than flat on the palatal plates. It does seem that you can identify them by sensation when feeling around, applying firm pressure. I'm not sure as to exact location that would be best--in front of the sutures? To the outer side?
People seem to vary in the kind of pressure they can tolerate. Some folks report pushing as hard as they can with no ill effects, and others say this caused them real pain. My guess is that frequency is at least as important as force in creating change. How much discomfort is okay and how much is a sign to stand down your efforts? I have no idea yet. I do get a little headachey when I'm diligent about it, but not enough to scare me as I'm really only applying medium force.
I think a video guide would be extremely helpful
people have been talkingabout this for like 2 years if I don't see any progress pictures I don't really wanna spend my effort and time to do this instead of using it on just mewing
I've read that you've had good results with thumbpulling, can you describe your method here?
You can read about my initial progress and technique used here: /community/community/main-forum/frequent-low-tension-facepulling-a-potentially-effective-new-technique-for-adjusting-the-skull-by-hand/
Lately I do adjustments very infrequently because my lower teeth are close to my upper teeth now, so I want to go very, very slowly to hopefully avoid a situation like creating an edge-to-edge bite.
The admin of this site posts about additional techniques that may help with loosening the sutures here, such as inversion mewing. And I think he's correct about the utility of these techniques, though in my experience asymmetry was resolved in accordance with Mew's "crumpled box" theory of resolving facial asymmetry through moving the maxilla forward, where admin claims the opposite order of operations. Perhaps it's different for everyone.
Speaking of order of operations, I suspect it may be important to drop the posterior part of the palate down prior to using techniques to move the maxilla forward...
And something I want everyone to get is that Mew speaks very little about face pulling and nor does he stress the importance of loosening the sutures. In fact, in the last Q&A he said it didn't matter how expansion was obtained (through bone remodelling or through the loosening of the sutures). He also seemingly has no comment yet about dropping the posterior part of the palate down.
Something else to note is how it seems myofascial release is useful to help relax the muscles and thus more readily permit the movement of skull bones.
There is a theory (from craniosacral therapy, I believe) that being in a parasympathetic state will also help permit the movement of the skull bones. This is a massive topic of its own and tends to somehow involve the stimulation of the vagus nerve.
Remember this pain... and let it activate you.
where is the tuts?
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