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(@harrykanemaxilla)
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On a scale of 1-10 with 1- being very recessed and 10- being completely fine

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Posted : 19/11/2018 6:09 pm
(@jimbobape)
Posts: 44
 

You're not recessed at all but could definitely improve from mewing / open-mouth chewing


 
Posted : 19/11/2018 8:24 pm
(@eddiemoney)
Posts: 1722
 

Looks like normal development. But have you measured the mew line?


 
Posted : 19/11/2018 10:17 pm
(@progress)
Posts: 878
 

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 8:54 am
(@slinky)
Posts: 147
 

Amazing morph. Hope op can achieve that profile with mewing 


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 9:23 am
(@john258)
Posts: 5
 
Posted by: jimbobape

You're not recessed at all but could definitely improve from mewing / open-mouth chewing

What is open mouth chewing? Is it the same as gum chewing/tongue chewing?


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 10:04 am
(@harrykanemaxilla)
Posts: 231
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Thanks for the great morph Progress. I thought that I was recessed because of my gonial angle and lack of jawline, long face, and lack of forward growth. Can someone show me a person with lots of recession in their face.


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 10:52 am
(@bogdar)
Posts: 81
 
Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

 

IMO you don't have "normal" development, at all. You have classical features of a class II malocclusion: chin back from your maxilla, nose seems not in the good dimensions compared to the face, skin under chin a bit too relaxed, lack of compacity, weak cheekline, burried ramus but I guess a not that good angle.

 

IMO again, on the scale of class II features, 10 being the most recessed you are like 5 or so. I don't think your ideal profile by Progress is actually your ideal profile. With all respects @Progress.


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 12:17 pm
(@progress)
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Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

What makes you think so?


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 12:37 pm
(@bogdar)
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Posted by: Progress
Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

What makes you think so?

As I said, cheekline is still missing. Moreover the chin is too big and give him a prognath look. Intuitively midface and lowface ratio are not good. Except for the cheekline I think your morph on midface is quite accurate and pretty good, but not for the lower face. 

 

I'm not saying I could do a better morph tho.


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 1:19 pm
(@progress)
Posts: 878
 
Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress
Posted by: Bogdar
Posted by: Progress

Your development is normal as in average, but not normal as in ideal. Based on your overbite, subtle dorsal hump, gonial angle and philtrum projection I would say you are at 6. Numerical rating is of course highly subjective, so here is a rough approximate of your ideal profile for your own comparison:

You transformed him from retrognathism to prognathism.

What makes you think so?

As I said, cheekline is still missing. Moreover the chin is too big and give him a prognath look. Intuitively midface and lowface ratio are not good. Except for the cheekline I think your morph on midface is quite accurate and pretty good, but not for the lower face. 

 

I'm not saying I could do a better morph tho.

From what I understand, prognathism is defined by mandibular dental arch that has advanced beyond the maxillary arch, essentially being the same thing as underbite / class III malocclusion. A strong telltale of prognathism is usually excessively pouting lower lip, which is something that is not present in the picture.

Now that you pointed it out though, I agree that his chin should end up with less vertical height and that his lower third:middle third ratio is a bit off. I may have made his nose slightly too short too.

In reality, his face would grow in a manner that would be difficult to capture without extensive editing. By this edit I was attempting to give a general picture of the extent of improvements that could possibly be available to him. Considering this, perhaps it was misleading to call it "ideal" profile.


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 2:39 pm

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