It can be very hard to judge our proportions from bad cameras, lighting, etc. but an easy way I’ve found is to look at the relationship between the nasial bridge (the part where the nose dips outward) and the lip line (where the lips fall along with the chin).
Here you can see that forward growth moves the lip line and chin behind the teeth. That’s the goal, and these children all display these results from Orthotropics:
Now here is a picture of me when I first started mewing and recently. While it appears there’s a huge change, that’s just camera distance mostly. My change is mostly the lower face width (only seen from front) and better eye support (also mostly seen from front).
But from mewing without pushing forward (as I’ve changed to do) you can see the relationship and line between the bridge and lip regarding the teeth is the same:
This and the comments of Mike Mew stating that forward growth and maxilla movement around the cheekbones is limited by is why I’m pushing up and forward to see if there is any change within a year :)
let me know what you think of this, and if live noticed a change in your own lip line (my theory and idea might be quackery)
I think forward force is mandatory for great results. I used to have a very slight dorsal hump near the top of my nose and it's flattened out entirely and pretty rapidly since I transitioned to also using forward pressure in my posture. Did you have your tongue tip brought back so it's near the front ridges? I think that position is much easier to achieve a lot of forward pressure with but the downside is it doesn't cover the Incisive Papilla area behind the front teeth. I've only recently gotten very good at keeping my tongue tip at the incisive papilla area with an upward force while the mid-section of my tongue curves up along the front ridges applying a forward/upwards force against it. This sloped area seems ideal to push against to achieve that forward growth.
I reckon the secret to getting your mid-tongue to press against the sloped/ridged area effectively without slipping is to ensure that the tip and back of your tongue are flush with the rest of your mouth and firmly pressed upwards. This maximizes grip. When I do this I can press forwardly against this sloped area as hard as I can and it still won't slip.
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obligatory shitty diagram w/ the black lines representing the forces
Nice pixel art 👾 and that’s great to know about and helpful! I’ll try and do what you’ve shown. It’s a little tricky with my anatomy but I’m going to keep trying to do this total coverage version
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