@darkindigo

So you're saying Dr. mike mew is a fraud

Not the same,

Less or more, but regardless,

More even and directed growth

@DarkIndigo

Then you have been mewing wrong. The way to mew is to push the very back of the tongue upwards and have the front part of the tongue relaxed up. If you have the force forwards, that will cause openbite.

But yeah, appliance is superior to mewing when intermolar width is below 37-38 mm. 

@darkindigo mewing is just excercising a muscle and using it properly. Its not dangerous to apply force if you do it correctly, just like any other excercise if you squat with bad form yes youll gain some strength but you eventually get injured. Applying force is ok if you know how to do it properly. their is no definitive guide because everyones different. All you can do is master your body posture and master tongue posture and results will come with time but for most of us that would take way too long. We need to strengthen the tongue quickly. Mewing has become really complicated on here but its actually very simple you cant mew correctly without good body posture and if you do you may see some undesired changes. Take a look at this post this is proof it works. Also i agree appliances are much faster but this helps buidl the proper tongue posture /community/community/main-forum/hey-guys-mewing-doesnt-work-sarcasm-age-15-21-before-after-itt/  

im curious what youve learned about ADHD and whatever other knowledge you have to offer. Ive gathered from reading on this forum that ADHD seems to come from improper growth mainly in the face either because of the hormones, small airway, or muscle imbalances

seems like you have good knowledge @darkindigo i dont think you should leave this forum just because of the possible dangers of hard mewing. I used to have really bad adhd symptoms and ive been mewing for about a year and i think ive made quite a dramatic change. i wasnt breastfed so i developed really bad bruxism and overbite and mewing fixed my bruxism and improved pretty much every facet in my life and helped a lot of my adhd symptoms. I also have a tongue tie but that just might be from not being breastfed

Let me make my question clearer I have enough room for my tongue and my IMW is above 39 mm. Now can I have good amount of expansion probably in the 50s and I'm young so.