The relationship between your jaws certainly looks like that of a typical overjet/overbite. You have slight forward head posture, and you possibly suffer from some form of hip imbalance too. Straightening out your neck and learning to exert pressure against the palate with both the anterior and the posterior tongue would be a good place to begin from.

Thank you for your answer! 

I’m impressed you can estimate my posture other than what’s shown in the picture. I believe you’re right, I suspect my hip flexor are too tight which forces me to “swank” and push my belly out, which ends up in my head taking a forward position. 

My dentist did mention I had a mild overbite, but she insisted I shouldn’t do anything to fix it, since the teeth match eatchother so well. But I on the other hand, am not happy with the way I look, so something must be done. 

Other than my overbite, is my maxilla recessed? 

I don’t like surgeries so I would be really glad if I could fix my profile without having to cut my jaw and press my chin forward. 

That actually looks like quite a serious overbite to me, regardless of what she said about your bite. And your mandible is retruded as a result. Do you have any TMJ problems like pain, or clicking and popping when you chew? When you stick your fingers in your ears and move your jaw up and down, do you feel a lot of bone movement in the ear canal? 

I'm gonna guess that all this goes with a narrow palate, and that your airways are not as open as they could be. 

Just from looking at your profile it looks like a classic case of needing counterclockwise rotation of the maxilla (counterclockwise on your profile looking right that is). In other words, maxilla needs to come forward and upwards, and the mandible needs to swing upwards and outwards to meet it.

If you have any of the symptoms listed above, and in particular if you suffer from sleep apnea or chronic snoring, you'd be a prime candidate for Lefort 1 surgery. But since you want to avoid surgery, I would suggest maybe a combination of MSE + facemask? There's a thread further down talking about that very combination. 

More so than the hipflexors being tight, their functional opposites are too weak. Were all your muscle groups sufficiently fit, no muscle would be allowed to tighten: the muscles would pull against each other and in this way ensure that neither overtightens. This is why it's generally much more beneficial to strengthen the weak muscles than to stretch the tight muscles of any muscle pair (consider that a muscle can retain its strength for days to weeks, but lose its looseness overnight).

In your case, your lateral glutes, abs and upper back are weak. Relevant terms here are lordosis and anterior pelvic tilt. It would be very beneficial to begin working on these simultaneously as you begin mewing. You don't have to do much at once, just do something every day. You may find the exercises talked about in these posts helpful for your particular condition: 1 , 2

Your maxilla is pretty recessed. You can measure the distance between the end of your incisors and the tip of your nose, which results in a measurement called "Mew indicator line". Good maxillary position is found at around 35-40 mm. Yours is at ~50 mm.

I think you have the potential to improve significantly without having to undergo a surgery. You just have to be dedicated and be prepared to push hard throughout the day, especially in the beginning when your tongue is weak.

Damn! 

No, I feel no pain, but it does however click sometimes. Especially if I eat baguette. 

And yes, when I stick my fingers in my ears I do feel a lot of movement while chewing. 

My girlfriend says I sometimes snore, and have these abruptions where I stop breathing, so I guess that’s sleeps apnea? 

If surgery is what would be the most efficient, then I will look into it. It’s just that after I read on westonaprice.com, it seems that a lot of orthodontic doctor are old school, especially here in Sweden. I will see if I’m lucky and can find le fort surgery or BME + facemask. 

I’ll include an quite hilarious picture of my upper jaw bite, perhaps it can tell wether it’s narrow or not. I also noticed my palate/arch is quite deep!

Thank you you so much for your answer!

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More so than the hipflexors being tight, their functional opposites are too weak. Were all your muscle groups sufficiently fit, no muscle would be allowed to tighten: the muscles would pull against each other and in this way ensure that neither overtightens. This is why it's generally much more beneficial to strengthen the weak muscles than to stretch the tight muscles of any muscle pair (consider that a muscle can retain its strength for days to weeks, but lose its looseness overnight).

In your case, your lateral glutes, abs and upper back are weak. Relevant terms here are lordosis and anterior pelvic tilt. It would be very beneficial to begin working on these simultaneously as you begin mewing. You don't have to do much at once, just do something every day. You may find the exercises talked about in these posts helpful for your particular condition: 1 , 2

Your maxilla is pretty recessed. You can measure the distance between the end of your incisors and the tip of your nose, which results in a measurement called "Mew indicator line". Good maxillary position is found at around 35-40 mm. Yours is at ~50 mm.

I think you have the potential to improve significantly without having to undergo a surgery. You just have to be dedicated and be prepared to push hard throughout the day, especially in the beginning when your tongue is weak.

I never thought about it that way. I work as a carpenter, and always assumed what I needed was to stretch, but now it makes a lot of sense to strengthen my “opposite” muscles. 

I just measured my mew line. It was like 52-53 (hard to tell since I was looking in the mirror) 

frankly I didn’t expect my maxilla to be recessed, since it looks to be quite forward compared to my Nasial point. However a recessed maxilla might be good news since getting it forward might make my eyes seem less like bugeyes/ptotis. (I see a lot of sclera under my iris.) 

I’ve noticed I do rest my tongue in my upper palate, but I’m unsure wether the anterior part has contact. Feeling my tongue is still so new to me, so I guess I need more time. My palate however feels very deep, which worries me. 

Thank you you for your answer!

Here's my thoughts... you need to provide more photos... the teeth from the front together.  The teeth from the side together in natural position.  Thst shot is not directly from the side. Need directly from the side.  :-)

Also... please show the limits of comfotable jaw movement.  And please measure Mew indicator line.  We need to know exact mm.  Also, please smile big or show molar alignment for 1 or both sides.  Also, not sure how to do this best, but please get your intermolar width for your last molars.  Maybe bite into celery, cucumber or jicama?

Oops and I forgot... front regular camera smiling photo, please! :-)

Also, tonight please angle your pillow diagonally to better support your chin.  It should help a bit!  :-)  I can shave 1-2 hours of sleep with this trick alone.  If you don't sleep on your side... try it.  

Any loose or missing teeth?

Posted by: darkindigo

Here's my thoughts... you need to provide more photos... the teeth from the front together.  The teeth from the side together in natural position.  Thst shot is not directly from the side. Need directly from the side.  :-)

Also... please show the limits of comfotable jaw movement.  And please measure Mew indicator line.  We need to know exact mm.  Also, please smile big or show molar alignment for 1 or both sides.  Also, not sure how to do this best, but please get your intermolar width for your last molars.  Maybe bite into celery, cucumber or jicama?

Oops and I forgot... front regular camera smiling photo, please! :-)

Also, tonight please angle your pillow diagonally to better support your chin.  It should help a bit!  :-)  I can shave 1-2 hours of sleep with this trick alone.  If you don't sleep on your side... try it.  

Any loose or missing teeth?

 

 

http://imgur.com/a/IkMObjC

Alright, I’ve taken a bunch of photos now. I found it extremely hard to capture my teeth in them, but I did my best. I also played arround a bit with moving my jaw in different positions. 

My central incisors are tipped in opposite directions, so my mew line is 50-54 depending on what incisor I measure from. 

No loose or missing tooth, I do have a rootfilled molar however, with a cap on top. 

Thank you for taking your time, and let me know if the link to the picture album isn’t working! 

I come to think of something. You know that string underneath your upper lip? Mine has been torn off since many years back. I hope that hasn’t caused any of my problems now, yet I find it difficult to see how that string could. 

Just to add to whats already been said: You have a very long midface caused by your recessed maxilla and you lack under eye support.

I appreciate your input! 

I have a similar face to yours, except that my chin is just a little bit recessed, almost in line with the philtrum. My maxilla is also a bit more forward than yours. My jawline is very similar to yours.

Is it just me or are you pushing your chin backwards in your 2nd posted pic (to show the overbite).

How does one actually test if you have an overbite? I find it confusing.

If I just touch my upper and lower teeth and let them rest in a natural position, I have just a slight normal overbite. If I lock my teeth (like I was biting), my lower jaw has to come backward.

Posted by: GreekGodBrody

I have a similar face to yours, except that my chin is just a little bit recessed, almost in line with the philtrum. My maxilla is also a bit more forward than yours. My jawline is very similar to yours.

Is it just me or are you pushing your chin backwards in your 2nd posted pic (to show the overbite).

 

How does one actually test if you have an overbite? I find it confusing.

If I just touch my upper and lower teeth and let them rest in a natural position, I have just a slight normal overbite. If I lock my teeth (like I was biting), my lower jaw has to come backward.

Im not pushing my chin back I’m afraid. My natural resting position, and my biting position is the same. 

There are more pictures in the imgur album I posted. 

Regarding the overbite: I did read about it, and by biting, and then observing how the first upper molar interact with your lower molar, you can tell how bad it is. 2-3 mm overbite/overjet (vertical/horizontal) is alright. Sometimes people have a normal bite (occlusion?) but the teeth can be crowded and make your incisor protruding, giving you an overjet. 

I tried to diagnose the interaction between my molars with the pictures, and it looked alright, until I checked my other side. (The golden filling fooled me by making the interaction look correct).