I think it is very important and also underrated. The goal of it is to not just make your tongue and jaw stronger so mewing is easier but to make them stronger to the point where you don't even need to be aware of it or even be awake to have proper oral posture. I've been going hard with the open-mouth gum chewing for about a month and now my jaw is shut when idle all the time, even when asleep. Basically, my jaws default/relaxed state is now in the closed position and I have to make the conscious decision to open it which is fantastic. 

Should you trade a few hours a day of chewing (not mewing) to be able to do it all night long?  🤔 Yes, I reckon so. 

I'm working on tongue exercises more now. Have been neglectful of them because they aren't very enjoyable or comfortable imo. 

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Here's some good shit to read. You could probably find other stuff by searching for chewing 

Youre only recommended to do it for 1-2 hours

Chewing gum all day could  overworks your muscles and can lead to injury/tmj etc.

Regular chewing gum is too soft so mastic gum is recommended.

Chewing with a closed mouth helps keeps your teeth in place according to Mew. Open mouth chewing is something some people on this forum have been trying out but without proper documentation you should consider the possible unforeseen repercussions. 

Posted by: krollic

I think it is very important and also underrated. The goal of it is to not just make your tongue and jaw stronger so mewing is easier but to make them stronger to the point where you don't even need to be aware of it or even be awake to have proper oral posture. I've been going hard with the open-mouth gum chewing for about a month and now my jaw is shut when idle all the time, even when asleep. Basically, my jaws default/relaxed state is now in the closed position and I have to make the conscious decision to open it which is fantastic. 

Should you trade a few hours a day of chewing (not mewing) to be able to do it all night long?  🤔 Yes, I reckon so. 

I'm working on tongue exercises more now. Have been neglectful of them because they aren't very enjoyable or comfortable imo. 

 

/community/community/main-forum/where-to-order-mike-mew-chewies-for-jaw-chewing-training/#

/community/community/main-forum/open-mouth-chewing/#

Here's some good shit to read. You could probably find other stuff by searching for chewing 

This is very interesting thank you very much. Months ago when I heard  from mew about chewing gum, I cut 2 square pieces from a sillicone mouthguard to chew because it's harder than bubble gum, but I didn't start chewing it in a daily basis, much less with an open mouth, this is new for me. I'm chewing the pieces right now haha the only problem I find is that saliva gets accumulated on the commissures, this might sound stupid but how do you deal with this? Hahah also, do you eat your meals with an open mouth as well? And thanks again for the advice

Posted by: dag

Youre only recommended to do it for 1-2 hours

Chewing gum all day could  overworks your muscles and can lead to injury/tmj etc.

Regular chewing gum is too soft so mastic gum is recommended.

Chewing with a closed mouth helps keeps your teeth in place according to Mew. Open mouth chewing is something some people on this forum have been trying out but without proper documentation you should consider the possible unforeseen repercussions. 

Thanks for your concern man, have you been chewing gum with your mouth closed? If so what have been your results?

@krollic also since it's not explained anywhere I read.. do you gently touch your lips every time you chew to detach them again as you open your jaw and so on? Or your lips remain isolated by a small gap of nothingness throughout the whole chewing session? (Lol)

The former. When you close your jaw your lips should ofc touch. When you chew/eat try using only your jaw muscle and you should see what I mean. You'll notice that your lips and cheeks do much less work. From there decide if you wanna do it or not I suppose.

e: I don't really know anything about that saliva build up thing, sorry.

Yes chewing gum is a required step to achieve good oral posture, as it helps strengthen the master muscles. This enables the upper and lower teeth to stay in light contact for proper arch development and keeps the lower jaw from falling down and dragging the tongue with it away from resting on the palate. As others pointed out you only need to chew gum for 1 to 2 hours a day.

I haven't been doing it long enough to expect radical results but on the right side of my face on my jawline there was a dip that has filled in which im very excited about. I think my chin has also gotten a bit stronger from it being under stress all the time. But I'm not really expecting to see any results  until next year

I haven't seen any negative experience with closed mouth chewing other than always biting the inside of my cheeks. OMC makes that not happen . I know i used to use my cheeks to push food in so OMC has trained me to do that less. 

Idk whether it is superior for facial development but it obliterated that problem I had. The problem I have with it is it doesn't train your lips to keep your teeth aligned. Nor does it train your mouth to stay closed.

Posted by: krollic

The former. When you close your jaw your lips should ofc touch. When you chew/eat try using only your jaw muscle and you should see what I mean. You'll notice that your lips and cheeks do much less work. From there decide if you wanna do it or not I suppose.

e: I don't really know anything about that saliva build up thing, sorry.

I didn't mean closing the lips in a resting position, I meant while you are chewing. But I was being too perfectionist, I now know how to do it I think. And regarding the saliva, it only happened with my "sillicone gum" not with food, so problem solved. I just should switch to real bubble gum I guess 

@abdul @dag @metcel do you guys think, (since the main problem with CMC is the fact that you involve your lips and cheek muscles to push the food), you could just CMC without moving lips and cheeks at all, just plain teeth and tongue, bring the same results as OMC?

Posted by: Skull

@abdul @dag @metcel do you guys think, (since the main problem with CMC is the fact that you involve your lips and cheek muscles to push the food), you could just CMC without moving lips and cheeks at all, just plain teeth and tongue, bring the same results as OMC?

I am personally not an advocate of open mouth chewing per say, I was just forced to do it after installing Damon braces to expand both arches. Now since I have been doing it for 6 months, I think it engages the muscles differently but not necessarily better. My tmj has reduced to clicking sound only, but is that because of omc? I don't know. Maybe the extra range of motion with omc is forcing my mandible condyles out of their sockets and reducing compression.

But to answer your specific question, so what if the lips and cheeks move with closed mouth chewing? Aren't they just coming along for the ride. After all the the masseter muscles are initiating and maintaining the chewing, right? 

@skull forget bubble gum. look at falim gum on ebay/amazon etc. it's super cheap, very good and usually has free shipping

Thanks a lot @krollic

@krollic @skull Watch out for falim though. Unfortunately, they use two synthetic antioxidants: E321 or Butyl hydroxytoluene which is a synthetic antioxidant to prevent rancidity. It is suspected of being neurotoxic or highly toxic for the liver, kidneys and retina, as well as elevating cholesterol levels. Also E320 or Butyl hydroxyanisol, which is suspected of elevating blood lipids and more.

Mastic gum is the way to go

im gonna preach some verses so get ready:

"Yasuki Uchida et al12 conducted an investigation to seethe relationship between masseter muscle size and craniofacialmorphology particularly maxilla and reported that as themuscle size becomes large, the anterior maxillary region tendsto shift downward relative to the cranial base, whereas theposterior region tends to shift upwards. The decrease in totalanterior face height or lower anterior face height and increasein total posterior face height or lower posterior face height asthe masseter muscle increase in size may be due to the inclination of mandibular plane as well as clockwise rotation of the maxilla."

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49781646_Relationship_between_masseter_muscle_size_and_maxillary_morphology

"Masseter muscle thickness was found to be negatively correlated to vertical facial pattern and positively associated with transverse craniofacial morphology."

http://www.ijdr.in/article.asp?issn=0970-9290;year=2012;volume=23;issue=6;spage=726;epage=731;aulast=Rohila

"Increase in masseter muscle thickness causes more horizontal growth of the face and the resulting facial type will be more brachyfacial"

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b82c/636cf1eb600eff326f2d6c1cf3089315099a.pdf )

i got like 7 more quotes from various orthodontic investigations i think 3 is enough lol

Posted by: lil nut

im gonna preach some verses so get ready:

"Yasuki Uchida et al12 conducted an investigation to seethe relationship between masseter muscle size and craniofacialmorphology particularly maxilla and reported that as themuscle size becomes large, the anterior maxillary region tendsto shift downward relative to the cranial base, whereas theposterior region tends to shift upwards. The decrease in totalanterior face height or lower anterior face height and increasein total posterior face height or lower posterior face height asthe masseter muscle increase in size may be due to the inclination of mandibular plane as well as clockwise rotation of the maxilla."

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49781646_Relationship_between_masseter_muscle_size_and_maxillary_morphology

 

"Masseter muscle thickness was found to be negatively correlated to vertical facial pattern and positively associated with transverse craniofacial morphology."

http://www.ijdr.in/article.asp?issn=0970-9290;year=2012;volume=23;issue=6;spage=726;epage=731;aulast=Rohila

"Increase in masseter muscle thickness causes more horizontal growth of the face and the resulting facial type will be more brachyfacial"

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b82c/636cf1eb600eff326f2d6c1cf3089315099a.pdf )

i got like 7 more quotes from various orthodontic investigations i think 3 is enough lol

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think those studies show that bone changes can occur in adults by developing the masseters. They show a correlation between wide bone structure and large masseters, but they haven't demonstrated anyone changing their current adult bone structure by growing their masseters. A more likely conclusion would be that the masseters have a widening effect on bone structure during development, and that these people retain large masseters into adulthood. 

To be honest I just chew regular gum. I keep hearing people say it's useless, but it can really give your jaw a workout if you chew 5 or 6 pieces together. And it's not as hard on your teeth or jaw as Mastic gum. I know it works to build your masseters because my left masseter is much larger than my right due to favoring that side when I chew. I tried Mastic gum and while I really like the taste and how fresh it makes your mouth feel, I felt like it was damaging my teeth. It is considerably harder. Plus there's that extra step where you have to rinse it first, lol....

My commute is about 30 minutes each way. I feel silly chewing gum, so I do it while driving, and the timing is just about right to not overdo it.