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Is it bad to move correctly too fast? I have literally seen progress in a single day but then it fell back...

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Hello all,

Is it bad to move correctly too fast? I finally was able (I think) to get correct tongue posture from the main website's article that says to fold your tongue if you lack transverse space. I have been correctly (I think) tongue swallowing with that posture a lot since I read that swallowing is a big force contributor, and I swear I literally saw changes within a day, maybe day and a half making me more attractive (I have very low body fat so small changes are easily spotted).

The thing is, I'm still training myself to hold correct posture 24/7 and earlier today it felt like all of a sudden something in my face fell, and I looked in the mirror and saw that I could see that my lower eyelids were slightly lower, and the rest of my face was slightly different too. I don't think I'm imagining it, because I have spent way too much time looking at my face in the mirror to try and understand what all this could do.

I am generally very very flexible, especially for a guy, and I wonder if I have some kind of mild connective tissue defect. I also have and have had very flat and inwardly pronated feet since I can remember, and at least some degree of significant forward head posture.

Is it possible I moved the bones too fast and they moved back? Should I not swallow on purpose like that? Is it possible to do any irreversible damage this way? We're only moving the bones relative to each other, right, not physically changing their shape?

Thank you so much to all for any thoughts!

UPDATE: I went skiing all day yesterday with a stuffy nose so had to hold my mouth open to breathe and today I can see in the mirror that my maxilla has retruded back a little bit. These bones shouldn't be able to move around this fast, right?


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 6:45 pm
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I don't think correct oral posture can cause the kind of side effects you are worried about. Even incorrect oral posture only causes adverse changes in facial form over the long term, but not acutely. In my opinion, it's only when people make the jump to using appliances that there is the potential for sudden complications. I'm not discounting the possibility that you might be somehow more susceptible to shifts in your cranial bones, than the average person, but I don't know enough to say how realistic this possibility could be. Different connective tissue disorders have different levels of severity and different characteristic facial presentations. Just to explore the concept, people with Marfan Syndrome, for example, typically have long faces, with vaulted palates and crowded teeth. So maybe the defect in the fibrillin of their connective tissue does promote more rapid development of craniofacial dystrophy. Think of the actor Vincent Schiavelli from the movie Ghost (haunting the subway). He has Marfan Syndrome, but also typifies the kind of "melting face" appearance that Dr. Mew attributes to incorrect oral posture. I'm not familiar with how other connective tissue disorders compare. But even if you did have some kind of undiagnosed increased connective tissue elasticity, it seems to me that correct oral posture would still be beneficial. I suppose it could make changes easier to induce but harder to maintain.


 
Posted : 03/02/2018 1:10 am
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Posted by: Apollo

I suppose it could make changes easier to induce but harder to maintain.

That makes sense.


 
Posted : 03/02/2018 1:15 am
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I've lost a few mm of changes that were made quickly when I kept the expander out. Not all of it was lost, just some

It's been said by professionals many times that the bone growth between sutures needs time to be cemented. So constantly stretching and relapsing would definitely cause a little bit of growth each time, but the longer it can be held the less you relapse


 
Posted : 04/02/2018 11:35 am
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OP updated


 
Posted : 04/02/2018 4:22 pm
 Li
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I have a similar experience but it's difficult to say how much/whether this is down to body dysmorphia.

My face/body appear to change significantly within days of incorrect/correct oral/body posture

 


 
Posted : 14/02/2018 8:56 pm
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Posted by: Li

I have a similar experience but it's difficult to say how much/whether this is down to body dysmorphia.

My face/body appear to change significantly within days of incorrect/correct oral/body posture

 

Hmmmm you might be right! Though I can breathe through my nose with correct oral posture far better than I could several weeks ago.


 
Posted : 14/02/2018 11:23 pm

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