I started mewing and ever since I noticed this happening to my face: I get a kind of double chin and gives me a 'turkey neck' appearance. I would like to know if this is normal or am I not mewing correctly? Please let me know!
Also im not 'fat', im actually pretty lean and little muscular but my face always has looked fat and heres my front view of my face
Is the back of your tongue making good contact with your soft palate? If yes and it's still an ongoing problem, it may just be too early -- if you keep going at it, the muscles surrounding the hyoid bone will get stronger, pull the hyoid up, and tighten that area up nicely, which will make your jaw look better.
Admittedly your face looks a *little* fat but I'm pretty sure that is because you're still pretty young -- if not, congrats on the anti-aging genes -- or you are potentially still engaging your buccinators while swallowing, causing them to hypertrophy slightly.
Anyway, I had the same "turkey neck" problem when I first started, even worse than you and to the point where I looked like I was straining while taking a dump or something haha -- now resolved. Keep mewing consistently (back of tongue on soft palate - very important to fixing this look), mckenzie chin tuck whenever you're not in public, and do some exercises like the smile-swallow or whatever it's called to speed up learning. Good luck chief
Yes as @varbrah said, make sure you've got your tongue plastered to the roof of your mouth. Without knowing your intermolar width, it can feel like you need to suck/suction your tongue up, you might possibly even need to fold your tongue. The posterior part of the tongue can feel pretty far back, almost as if it's at the back of your throat.
I saw a difference very quickly once I spent time in that position. It was hard to maintain for a while, but it did get easier.
Also make sure that you are working on your body posture, and if you have forward head posture. Mckenzie tucks help, but full correct body posture starts with the soles of the feet up.
Thank you both for your answers! I will give this more time then. And 3 more questions if you dont mind. 1. How can I make sure my tongue is correctly positioned? 2. As I get older, do my cheekbones get a bit more exposure? 3. And will losing fat in my body help make my face less chubby-looking in combination with mewing?
Thank you both for your answers! I will give this more time then. And 3 more questions if you dont mind. 1. How can I make sure my tongue is correctly positioned? 2. As I get older, do my cheekbones get a bit more exposure? 3. And will losing fat in my body help make my face less chubby-looking in combination with mewing?
Cheekbone exposure is tied with fat loss, not with aging. So if you lose fat your cheeks will show. Palate widening also pushes the cheekbones out since the maxilla is attached to the cheekbones and when it widens the cheekbones get pushed laterally.
I personally make sure I can feel the back of my tongue on my soft palate to know I am mewing correctly. If you can't feel this then you aren't doing it properly.
Ah okay, I guess ive got to rock to minimally exposed cheekbones for now. And how long do you think I have to mew in order for that turkey neck to disappear?
Ah okay, I guess ive got to rock to minimally exposed cheekbones for now. And how long do you think I have to mew in order for that turkey neck to disappear?
Depends on your level of recession. Been mewing myself for almost a year and turkey neck is still there. For me it will be harder to be rid of it since my mandible was shortened due to extractions of two premolars however.
Sounds a like a lot man, they say in Dutch: 'Wie mooi wil zijn moet pijn lijden' Whoever wants to be beautiful has to suffer/ sacrifice. And another question XD: When I mew it kinda hurts in that area, does that mean I do it the right way?
Sounds a like a lot man, they say in Dutch: 'Wie mooi wil zijn moet pijn lijden' Whoever wants to be beautiful has to suffer/ sacrifice. And another question XD: When I mew it kinda hurts in that area, does that mean I do it the right way?
Hurts in what area? The back of the palate ?
Yes and my neck because of that 'turkey neck muscle'
Yes and my neck because of that 'turkey neck muscle
How would you describe the pain?
It feels 'sore in the back of my mouth/up my throat'
It feels 'sore in the back of my mouth/up my throat'
Seems right. I am feeling the same meself
Also, do face/jaw exercises work a little bit?
Ah okay and another one XD, do you know if braces can help make your jawline better?
You're using your cheek muscles too much. Counter by regaining dexterity with the lips. Do this myology lip exercise: the "button pull": put a large button on a string, put the button flat against the outside face of your incisors, close your lips around it, then hold the string in one hand and pull the button away from your teeth, and use your lips to keep the button pressed against your teeth. You should not be engaging anything except your lip muscles.
@snaaaaakes Could you possibly develop on the theory that lip dexterity or strength is related to the strengthening of the buccinator that leads to its widening and growth? I have been struggling with overtly large buccinators despite a low body-fat level (9% Six-pack and all), and progression through puberty (I am 20 now). I have tried incorporated the mew-swallow or the correct method of swallowing which minimises use of the buccinators (Cannot completely eliminate it old habits die hard working on it) with some result. Could you recommend any such exercise that could atrophy the buccinator and strengthen muscles (such as the lip) that work in conjunction with it? Also, does the lip myology exercise increase the size of the lips? It would be a great help for any response. Thank you for sharing something helpful on this forum.
@snaaaaakes Could you possibly develop on the theory that lip dexterity or strength is related to the strengthening of the buccinator that leads to its widening and growth? I have been struggling with overtly large buccinators despite a low body-fat level (9% Six-pack and all), and progression through puberty (I am 20 now). I have tried incorporated the mew-swallow or the correct method of swallowing which minimises use of the buccinators (Cannot completely eliminate it old habits die hard working on it) with some result. Could you recommend any such exercise that could atrophy the buccinator and strengthen muscles (such as the lip) that work in conjunction with it? Also, does the lip myology exercise increase the size of the lips? It would be a great help for any response. Thank you for sharing something helpful on this forum.
I can do a thread on face exercises, as it's a great subject and I'm having good results. Your current issue will determine if your lips become bigger or smaller. People who mouth breathe and lack lip seal will see their lips become less large and squashy, more firm and toned. People with recessed maxilla will develop a fuller upper lip as the maxilla moves forward. Have a look at Dr Leonard Kundel's page on his own treatment with AGGA to see the thin to nonexistent lips typical to severely recessed maxilla.
@snaaaaakes Could you possibly develop on the theory that lip dexterity or strength is related to the strengthening of the buccinator that leads to its widening and growth? I have been struggling with overtly large buccinators despite a low body-fat level (9% Six-pack and all), and progression through puberty (I am 20 now). I have tried incorporated the mew-swallow or the correct method of swallowing which minimises use of the buccinators (Cannot completely eliminate it old habits die hard working on it) with some result. Could you recommend any such exercise that could atrophy the buccinator and strengthen muscles (such as the lip) that work in conjunction with it? Also, does the lip myology exercise increase the size of the lips? It would be a great help for any response. Thank you for sharing something helpful on this forum.
I think oversized/chubby-looking buccinators result from over-reliance on those muscles (when chewing) when the tongue isn't being used properly in chewing. Proper chewing posture looks, from the outside, like NO facial muscles are being engaged, except for the lips being held shut, because the only muscles that should be involved in chewing are the jaw and tongue. So IMO the solution to de-recruiting the buccinators during chewing is to re-train the tongue and lips to do their jobs correctly.
And re-training the lips to do their job correctly can be done with exercises like the button pull.
Important to note that these exercises aren't "working"/building the muscles in the same way that bodybuilding builds muscles; the exercises work by re-training your muscle memory, teaching your unconscious mind new patterns of action & posture that then get put into action when you're not thinking consciously about your movements.
Everything is fine with your face mate. I wouldnt worry too much about mewing at all.
I used to get the turkey neck from mewing, but after strengthening my tongue enough it doesnt happen anymore.
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