Start by placing the back of your tongue on the soft palate with a suction hold and where the tip of your tongue ends is where it should be. 

In other words, give more importance to where the root of your tongue is.

Your palate's shape depends on where the tongue has rested your whole life (among other things). The more underdeveloped the palate, the more vaulted and high it is. Not because it rises, but because of downward growth. And then there are people with good development who have palate whose slope begins right before the incisors. I suppose their alveolar ridge is not so high either, comparing it where it is in vaulted palates, since they have wider arches. 

So I think it's safe to assume, it's better to place your tongue depending on how your anatomy is, as long as the back of it is placed on the soft palate, it rests/is plastered as an unity on the palate, and your head balances on your spine.

Me too, I feel more comfortable with tips behind ruggae (1/2 inch behind upper teeth) and not just behind upper teeth

Thanks for replying Ayla31 🙂 

Yes my back part of tongue is always against the soft palate.

I also noticed that while tongue is at the spot it tends to stick much better to the palate as its more smoother than the rugae

Posted by: WILLIAM36563

Thanks for replying Ayla31 🙂 

Yes my back part of tongue is always against the soft palate.

I also noticed that while tongue is at the spot it tends to stick much better to the palate as its more smoother than the rugae

for "spot" u meant 1/2 inch behind upper teeth and not where the gums meet the teeth, right? You think you'll keep mewing with tongue tip there? I really don't know where to put my tip, I can put it just behind upper teeth or 1/2 inch behind them too with the posterior third on soft palate in both situations

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Posted by: WILLIAM36563

Thanks for replying Ayla31 🙂 

Yes my back part of tongue is always against the soft palate.

I also noticed that while tongue is at the spot it tends to stick much better to the palate as its more smoother than the rugae

for "spot" u meant 1/2 inch behind upper teeth and not where the gums meet the teeth, right? You think you'll keep mewing with tongue tip there? I really don't know where to put my tip, I can put it just behind upper teeth or 1/2 inch behind them too with the posterior third on soft palate in both situations

Yes by "spot" i mean the area just before the rugae starts 1/2 inch behind the upper teeth. 

And i think i'll maintain this position  but i'm going to search more information about it. 

Posted by: WILLIAM36563

Posted by: deep.thought

Posted by: WILLIAM36563

Thanks for replying Ayla31 🙂 

Yes my back part of tongue is always against the soft palate.

I also noticed that while tongue is at the spot it tends to stick much better to the palate as its more smoother than the rugae

for "spot" u meant 1/2 inch behind upper teeth and not where the gums meet the teeth, right? You think you'll keep mewing with tongue tip there? I really don't know where to put my tip, I can put it just behind upper teeth or 1/2 inch behind them too with the posterior third on soft palate in both situations

Yes by "spot" i mean the area just before the rugae starts 1/2 inch behind the upper teeth. 

And i think i'll maintain this position  but i'm going to search more information about it. 

let's keep in touch then, I'll search for more informations too. That's my only real doubt about mewing

I found these two blogs that's pretty coinvincing about tongue tip being 1/2 inch behind upper teeth 

https://www.staciebingham.com/blog/helping-my-tongue-hit-the-spot

http://queenofdentalhygiene.net/2015/09/the-mighty-tongue/

@WILLIAM36563, Gladly. It's great you can place the back of your tongue on the soft palate.

It seems to be a debate at the moment on the topic, so you will probably find conflicting information on that. Many Myofunctional therapists recommend the place behind the first ridge as the spot, others right behind the teeth. Mike Mew also recommends it at the incisive papilla, but many people find it easier to place the tongue behind the rugae.

My mother has a good maxillary development and she has always placed the back of her tongue on the roof the mouth/soft palate, but it's tip is almost making contact with the lower incisors.

In this video, that someone linked a while ago in this forum, Dr. Anna Maree shows in the minute 40, how a patient with good development places their tongue. You can see that the tongue's tip is right behind the lower and upper teeth, while the whole tongue is plastered on the palate:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjd05J7d33U&index=24&list=LLChGHVMThYdEv2b8e7saIZA&t=0s

So I don't think there is a 100% answer, yet. Maybe we could ask Mike again to see what his opinion on the matter is.

But the important thing is the suction hold and the back of the tongue. Mike recommends getting a suction hold, which is a mixture between pushing and suction. You will breath and swallow easier when you have it (depending also on your development). 

@Ayla31 Thank you for your information & sharing that video with us

/community/community/main-forum/tongue-tip-should-not-be-on-roof-of-mouth/

Your thoughts?

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I found these two blogs that's pretty coinvincing about tongue tip being 1/2 inch behind upper teeth 

https://www.staciebingham.com/blog/helping-my-tongue-hit-the-spot

http://queenofdentalhygiene.net/2015/09/the-mighty-tongue/

 

Thanks for sharing it 😊

I saw this on google images before and it raised my doubts about tongue tip position.

I got that "spot"  term from this image.  

@xDj, No  problem. 

First I  must correct what I said about my mother, I asked her to make a drawing of her tongue posture to better understand her, and she drew your version of incorrect posture. Now her forward head posture  and possible kyphosis makes sense (but her cheekbones and forward maxillary growth not so much).

Anyway, if I understand correctly, one should Not press the palate concentrating on the tip of the tongue anyway... rather, the tongue is held up with a vacuum, creating natural pressure against the whole roof of the mouth when the tongue is relaxed/free -and the whole body is aligned and balanced.

 That there must be a vacuum is what a renowned Myofunctional therapist told me years ago and what John Mew also teaches. With the difference, that she wants the blade of the tongue to rest behind the first ridge of the palatine rugae.

When I try your version of correct posture, placing the tip like in your drawing, and then bring my tongue up with gently suction, the tip or more like the seam/blade of the tongue follows upwards towards the palate. It ends behind the upper incisors without touching them, and probably similar to the man in Anne Maree's video when closed the mouth is closed.  

So I have the feeling the tongue's tip on your drawing is a little bit too low (for me) to maintain a vacuum on the palate.

 On a side note, I once tried keeping the back of the tongue on the soft palate while leaving the tip down, without touching my palate (because of a painful incisor) and my tongue became lazy with time. I think the combination of pain/numbness and lack of feedback of the nerves on the palate (also stimulated by the front portion of the tongue) contributed to this.

That's obviously not your case, so if you feel it works for you then keep at it. I would make measurements to be extra sure you're on the right path.  And as long you don't touch the teeth and don't lose the suction hold there shouldn't be a problem. Check out also whether your head's balance is compromised with this method.

I also agree with Progress, that it would be nice to ask Mike why he chose the picture and see what's his opinion on the whole matter.