Hello everyone,
Hope your attempts at growing and changing are continuing to go well.I just wanted to do a quick PSA of something we all know about, yet may not be cognizant of -- being tongue tied.
PSA: Get a consult with a myofunctional therapist, or someone to diagnose a tongue-tie. Apparently common dentists wont bother letting you know?
Yo, I've been going to doctors, dentists, and more for 20 years since the time I was a boy.
MOST of them looked inside my mouth.
AND yet it was only just a few days ago I'd learned I was tongue tied. A midline birth defect, yes. Me. SEVERELY tongue tied. My tongue tied down. As well as my lips -- the upper and lower lips frenum have also been said to need surgery as well.
No one told me about it, of course. Not family (they wouldnt know) Nor any of the ... 6? 7? dentists and orthodontists growing up.
But 5 mins into a myofunctional consultation and BAM -- diagnosed. 25 years old and to think of all the ways this tongue tie could have affected the posture, form, function, and habits of my body astound me.
"Your attempts to correct your posture have all gone to waste! You cannot possibly change your posture, EVEN your whole body posture because you've been tongue tied your whole life." paraphrasing. You've been compensating your whole life, and it may seem like it was operating correctly, but at the end of the day you have been struggling since the time you were a baby with this.
I'm getting a frenectomy near the end of the week. I'm told the difference will be astounding. "Try spending your whole life with your arm tied to your torso...then cut that restriction away and you'd be amazed at what it feels like to be able to move your arm freely again." quote
I'd spent a long time working on my tongue posture. posterior third. correct swallow. all of it. Yet I've got the sudden assurance that it will be quite quite different after the frenectomy.
At some point, I want to think there's an intentional racket involved in the dental industry to *not* tell people about these issues -- out of a desire to CREATE customers/demand for services.
How is it that 20 years of doctors would have me lift up my tongue and yet only just a few days ago was I ever once told I was tongue tied?
NOW im aware there can be an aspect of ignorance/not knowing about this being an issue, but somehow I'm cynical about that argument.
Hippocratic oath may be in place, but you know what I've learned is.. the fallacy of the idea that others will have all the information or share it with you.
How's your oral posture?
My perspective: Get the tongue tie checked even if no one has said you've got it once in your entire life.
This is just a point-of-view, of course. Do what you wish!
Best wishes to you all.
"Your attempts to correct your posture have all gone to waste! You cannot possibly change your posture, EVEN your whole body posture because you've been tongue tied your whole life." paraphrasing. You've been compensating your whole life, and it may seem like it was operating correctly, but at the end of the day you have been struggling since the time you were a baby with this.
What about your own experience? Do you yourself feel like you have not been able to maintain or achieve decent body/tongue posture? I have wondered about whether tongue tie is an actual physical malformation or more akin to a tight tendon that can be stretched. My tongue was released as a baby, but even once I began mewing my tongue felt weirdly immobile. Yet now after a couple of years of work the range of motion of the posterior tongue seems to have increased a lot. Looking forward to hearing how your mewing experience changes after the treatment.
"Your attempts to correct your posture have all gone to waste! You cannot possibly change your posture, EVEN your whole body posture because you've been tongue tied your whole life." paraphrasing. You've been compensating your whole life, and it may seem like it was operating correctly, but at the end of the day you have been struggling since the time you were a baby with this.
What about your own experience? Do you yourself feel like you have not been able to maintain or achieve decent body/tongue posture? I have wondered about whether tongue tie is an actual physical malformation or more akin to a tight tendon that can be stretched. My tongue was released as a baby, but even once I began mewing my tongue felt weirdly immobile. Yet now after a couple of years of work the range of motion of the posterior tongue seems to have increased a lot. Looking forward to hearing how your mewing experience changes after the treatment.
What I know about where I stand is the follows: My myofunctional therapist (whom I met for the first time just this week) noted that my attempts
Her words? Paraphrasing -- 'your personal efforts have made it so that you went from severely dysfunctional to only moderately-severely dysfunctional. Your efforts in the past have helped!' heh..
You know? I thought I was doing great work! Progressing! I thought I was progressing. I mean sure, its true I saw no physical/tangible changes in my face or teeth or anything in my skull, but I believed I had it down!
I had popping cranial popping at times. I had improved breathing after some mewing sessions. I was confident I was doing it correctly, and no problems.
I had no concept that tongue tied was at all involved.
Whole body posture? I still have the minor scoliosis (even though im told that is a norm at this point) the neck discomfort is still there
still have the sleep apneac tendency,
forward head posture is clsasified as not so bad, (their words not mine) yet it is there. Nightly breathing difficulties, yse.
I thought I had cured the mouth breathing on my own! That is until the professional said, 'you see what you're doing right now? You're mouth breathing.' Ruh roh.
When I keep my tongue in the correct position on the spot, I originally thought my whole tongue was engaged on the roof. Yet there is, in reality, a lot of palate left to be occupied. Embrrassingly so.
Re stretching:
I've been doing myofunctional exercises for the past two days, and I have been feeling quite a stretch from those. Strong stretching. Which makes me inclined to think that my efforts beforehand weren't affecting the frenum as much as in your case. But to be open about it -- I spent the beginning of my correction with my tongue in the wrong place. I wasn't keeping my tongue on the spot!! I was keeping my tongue more so in the mid-palate/ridge. further back. oops. So that could be on me.
Still,
I'm quite confident mobility, and posture will be dramatically improved post-surgery. I shall post an update down the road.
i wondered if you’d give your own insight into tongue tied.
I did have the surgery, and I’m two weeks out, yet I’ve slacked on exercises in week 2. Eessh.
Results? Revisions? Insights? Benefits?
Could you explain how to make an appointment for a tongue tie? How do you find where to get it done and what was the process like?
sure. I had it done at a periodontal dentist’s Office.
I didn’t know this but Tongue ties are correlated to peridontal issues, and apparently they offer those services there. They applied topical anesthesia and used a laser
alternatively I’ve read an account of going to the ENT office and having it done that. That particular case had used a scalpel and suture approach.
orofacial myologists, myofunctional therapists would be able to diagnose it as well.
ent and peridontal dentists are where I know offer tongue tie frenectomy.
i wondered if you’d give your own insight into tongue tied.
I did have the surgery, and I’m two weeks out, yet I’ve slacked on exercises in week 2. Eessh.
Results? Revisions? Insights? Benefits?
Three main tips: massage/stretch the wound to keep it open, do your exercises to get your tongue used to being free, and eat well for quick healing.
As far as the exercises go, they are probably pretty important at the beginning stages (first month) and less so over time. You just want to get your tongue used to being free and released and put it through its entire range of motion a few times a day. I am of the opinion that most myofunctional therapists actually take things a little too far but its still good to do the exercises they give you at first just so you can learn more about your tongue and help the muscles/tendons/nerves to change and rewire.
That said, the most important 'exercises' you can do are simply mewing, chewing, and swallowing properly.
As far as benefits/results, I have definitely noticed improved facial aesthetics, better breathing, better posture, etc since my tie was released. It was very worth it in my case. The changes take time.. months at the least.
Hello everyone, i’m looking for help. I’m a 18 year old from Spain and the thing is that i’m pretty sure that I have a tongue tie since i have a high arched narrow palate and I haven’t really noticed progress after one year of struggling with mewing. The thing is that i don’t know if there are myofuncional therapists which can test my tongue mobility from a “mewing perspective” to make sure i’m tongue tied and do a frenectonomy. Traditional dentists from here doesn’t see problems with that, but you know, they are traditional dentists. Is there any way of making sure of my tongue tie here? Can anyone help me?
Thank you, take care and stay healthy.
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