I began changing my oral posture and mewing about 10 days ago, and there have already been some major improvements to my health that have not gone unnoticed. My nasal pathway has opened so much more, even after a deviated septum surgery which only did some very minor improvements to my breathing. My quality of sleep as a result of improved nasal airway space has skyrocketed. There has even been some minor forward advancement in my forehead bone and eye sockets, and have seen a slight reduction in dark circles below my eyes. Keep in mind that I have been mewing rather aggressively, and I do strongly believe that I wouldn't have seen this quick change if I had been mewing more mildly. Also, I am a 25 year old male.
My motivation for mewing comes from concerns with the lack of forward growth in my skull, which was likely hampered by years of orthodontic work, wearing retainers daily, etc. Some of the goals I hope to accomplish with this new lifestyle of correct oral posture and proper swallowing are:
- Forward advancement and widening of mandible, masseter muscles
- Forward growth of maxilla
- Hypotrophy of buccinator muscles, i.e. chubby cheeks (have some rather large ones)
- Complete opening of my nasal airways
- Lengthing/lowering of ramus
I'd love to hear what other positive outcomes one can expect from mewing, this is a new great lifestyle that I found!
How do you mew aggressively? What were some of your techniques? I could use some tips?
By consciously using more force than what is considered "relaxed". Not to the point of straining yourself in pain, but with determination.
I've basically come to the conclusion that just correct "posture" is not enough. Correct oral posture is enough when you start from the womb and unconsciously keep your tongue to the top of your palate. By doing this, your skull and face naturally grows around this posture.
However since people here are trying to actively reverse damage done over years of incorrect or insufficiently correct posture, I see it as basically a given that some degree of force has to be applied.
I've basically come to the conclusion that just correct "posture" is not enough. Correct oral posture is enough when you start from the womb and unconsciously keep your tongue to the top of your palate. By doing this, your skull and face naturally grows around this posture.
However since people here are trying to actively reverse damage done over years of incorrect or insufficiently correct posture, I see it as basically a given that some degree of force has to be applied.
I agree with you completely, we adults should hard-mew
I haven't hard mewed at all and have seen results. I am probably older than most of you as well.
Bone doesn't magically lose its ability to move after you turn 18.
Oh and I don't even chew, either.
The hard mewing stuff is a myth. Bones respond better to gentle forces anyway.
I haven't hard mewed at all and have seen results. I am probably older than most of you as well.
Bone doesn't magically lose its ability to move after you turn 18.
Oh and I don't even chew, either.
The hard mewing stuff is a myth. Bones respond better to gentle forces anyway.
You don't chew? That's awesome, tell me what results have you got in your jaw, and overall. And in how much time. Also, can you keep mewing while asleep?
I have an alternate framework where the hardness of the food does not matter and only the masseter vs maxilla/tongue opposite forces matter. I eat mostly cheese and baked potatoes, and I have achieved significant facial sensations by trying to oppose the masseter bite with tongue/palate. Mew hit close to target with his video about tongue chewing. I believe that ideally the material you are chewing should not matter, only the extent to which tongue and maxilla can oppose the masseters should.
I've basically come to the conclusion that just correct "posture" is not enough. Correct oral posture is enough when you start from the womb and unconsciously keep your tongue to the top of your palate. By doing this, your skull and face naturally grows around this posture.
However since people here are trying to actively reverse damage done over years of incorrect or insufficiently correct posture, I see it as basically a given that some degree of force has to be applied.
That's why expansion devices were developed, to help specifically such people. You can try to achieve the same with your tongue but it's just unreasonably hard to do that. Just to give you a personal example, I started mewing 2 months before getting braces and in that time frame I mewed extremely hard in one particular week. I mewed so hard that my tongue created a small sore point on my hard palate soft tissue. At the end of that week I developed a small gap (about 1 mm) in my upper front teeth. They were also tipped forward a little bit (also about 1mm). So that's sagittal and transverse expansion in just one week. I continued to mew but stopped this hard effort few days later and the progress disappeared in no time.
Just another small note, you start posturing your tongue properly while breast feeding, not in the womb. The infant presses the nipple hard with his tongue against the hard palate and applies suction to get the milk.
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
I haven't hard mewed at all and have seen results. I am probably older than most of you as well.
Bone doesn't magically lose its ability to move after you turn 18.
Oh and I don't even chew, either.
The hard mewing stuff is a myth. Bones respond better to gentle forces anyway.
You started at 38mm inter-molar width. That's the sweet spot to start your mewing at because your tongue has enough space to rest on your palate. Most people in this forum are struggling with 30-35mm palates. I can confirm this from my personal experience. Moving from 36mm to 37mm this month (7th of my treatment), I have seen a big difference in my ability to posture my tongue and swallow.
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
I have an alternate framework where the hardness of the food does not matter and only the masseter vs maxilla/tongue opposite forces matter. I eat mostly cheese and baked potatoes, and I have achieved significant facial sensations by trying to oppose the masseter bite with tongue/palate. Mew hit close to target with his video about tongue chewing. I believe that ideally the material you are chewing should not matter, only the extent to which tongue and maxilla can oppose the masseters should.
Does this mean that you are always mewing with some sort of force? Tell me what percentage of tongue preassure would you say you're always doing?
I've basically come to the conclusion that just correct "posture" is not enough. Correct oral posture is enough when you start from the womb and unconsciously keep your tongue to the top of your palate. By doing this, your skull and face naturally grows around this posture.
However since people here are trying to actively reverse damage done over years of incorrect or insufficiently correct posture, I see it as basically a given that some degree of force has to be applied.
That's why expansion devices were developed, to help specifically such people. You can try to achieve the same with your tongue but it's just unreasonably hard to do that. Just to give you a personal example, I started mewing 2 months before getting braces and in that time frame I mewed extremely hard in one particular week. I mewed so hard that my tongue created a small sore point on my hard palate soft tissue. At the end of that week I developed a small gap (about 1 mm) in my upper front teeth. They were also tipped forward a little bit (also about 1mm). So that's sagittal and transverse expansion in just one week. I continued to mew but stopped this hard effort few days later and the progress disappeared in no time.
Just another small note, you start posturing your tongue properly while breast feeding, not in the womb. The infant presses the nipple hard with his tongue against the hard palate and applies suction to get the milk.
I think it's possible "mewing" starts in the womb for healthy full-term babies. My daughter was born a couple weeks late, and before going for my induction, I saw her with the ultrasound. The way she was positioned, I figured her tongue may be on the roof of her mouth. But if the baby doesn't grow big enough to be a bit squished inside the womb, then they don't get the benefit of this pressure, and they possibly don't get to breastfeed as well since they're likely preterm and mother's milk doesn't always come in then.
I have the eyes to see this now, and in my community out of maybe 100s of kids observed so far, I've seen one other kid other than my own that appeared breastfed. I'll routinely see kids 2-3 years older than my daughter with smaller skulls. In our physical activity class the other day, ALL kids had open mouth posture at rest except mine, and she had a stuffy nose that day. Not trying to humble brag, but I do want to point out what I believe is an epidemic far worse than autism or anything else people say is an epidemic these days. I hope everyone here planning to be a parent does whatever they can to breastfeed: it can be difficult but the benefits are huge, chief amoung them being the chance at providing a robust skull inheritance, very low chance of mouth breathing and ingrained proper tongue posture. There are emotional and intellectual benefits too. I can only hope advances in orthotropics and related fields can help these mouth breathing and non breastfed kids because there really does seem to be a mouth breathing epidemic going on now.
Remember this pain... and let it activate you.
25%. There is no upward pressure. Once you place your tongue on the hard palate and engage suction this is when you will feel pressure. Your tongue will stay up effortlessly and you will find your lower jaw jutting forward and being stopped by the front upper teeth. I think this is why you need to exert some pressure at all, plus the transverse pressure against the sides of the molars. Otherwise I think mewing is almost effortless in properly developed jaws.
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
What function causes it, because its an effort afterall?
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
What function causes it, because its an effort afterall?
If the baby in the womb has their tongue on the roof of their mouth, and is in essentially a Mackenzie chin tuck position (this occurs at some point in the 3rd trimester), mewing could be taking place. But this is speculative, I've no idea where the baby would have their tongue while in the womb. Just saying hypothetically it seems possible if certain conditions are met.
Remember this pain... and let it activate you.
I haven't hard mewed at all and have seen results. I am probably older than most of you as well.
Bone doesn't magically lose its ability to move after you turn 18.
Oh and I don't even chew, either.
The hard mewing stuff is a myth. Bones respond better to gentle forces anyway.
You started at 38mm inter-molar width. That's the sweet spot to start your mewing at because your tongue has enough space to rest on your palate. Most people in this forum are struggling with 30-35mm palates. I can confirm this from my personal experience. Moving from 36mm to 37mm this month (7th of my treatment), I have seen a big difference in my ability to posture my tongue and swallow.
I get it boss man. But at the same time proponents of "hard mewing" seem to create problems like moving teeth apart or getting tongue sores.
It doesn't mean the adult palate can't change. What it means is that the methods by which people try and achieve it are questionable. Especially since unaesthetic side effects develop.
I haven't hard mewed at all and have seen results. I am probably older than most of you as well.
Bone doesn't magically lose its ability to move after you turn 18.
Oh and I don't even chew, either.
The hard mewing stuff is a myth. Bones respond better to gentle forces anyway.
You don't chew? That's awesome, tell me what results have you got in your jaw, and overall. And in how much time. Also, can you keep mewing while asleep?
Face results:
Increased eye support: both under eye and upper eye support as I feel my eyes have been pushed deeper into my skull. This makes my eyes more hooded and further back from the nose bridge. My eyeglasses used to rub against my lashes but that doesn't happen at all anymore as my eyes have come further back and don't bulge.
Nasiolabial convexity: my lips used to puff out unnaturally (for a man) after braces. The puffy duck lip effect is slowly going away as my lips evert less and my side profile gets flatter. I have lost no lip fullness either so I keep looking young due to this. After braces, you could draw a straight line from my nose tip to my chin and my lips would touch the line exactly. Now the lips have moved behind the line significantly, making my chin stronger.
Cheekbone prominence: my face used to be horse like and long. My cheeks have been pushed out laterally and my face is more flanged, thus the facial width to height ratio has drastically improved.
Skull width: I know this one is probably due to palate widening. My skull looks wider and I don't have to grow the sides of my hair out to add width to a horseface. I can get much shorter cuts and be aesthetic since my width has increased.
Lower third prominence: after braces my lower third became weak due to lower palate narrowing which forced the mandible to sit further back to close the bite. As the maxilla has expanded, the mandible (small U) can jut forward more to close the bite. Thus, my lower third is now longer than my middle third and I look more robust (masculine).
Other sensations I feel are having to adjust my mandible forward time to time to meet the new maxillary position. I have gotten taller not due to added bone mass but simply due to positioning my shoulders and neck correctly. Just the other day a woman of above average height called me tall because I was able to reach the pullup bars without jumping. That made my day. Other people are seeming shorter.
Finally, yes I keep my tongue on the roof of my mouth and on the incisive papilla when I sleep. I just was able to reach my incisive papilla a few days ago, too. So it shows expansion is possible even without proper Dr. Mew approved posture (for a long time I held it behind the rugae).
I started this 6 months ago going on 7 now. Have had an intermolar increase of 6 mm (1 mm per month) and am 32 years old.
I have an alternate framework where the hardness of the food does not matter and only the masseter vs maxilla/tongue opposite forces matter. I eat mostly cheese and baked potatoes, and I have achieved significant facial sensations by trying to oppose the masseter bite with tongue/palate. Mew hit close to target with his video about tongue chewing. I believe that ideally the material you are chewing should not matter, only the extent to which tongue and maxilla can oppose the masseters should.
Does this mean that you are always mewing with some sort of force? Tell me what percentage of tongue preassure would you say you're always doing?
Whatever force is required to keep head upright during any movement. Sitting down, not a lot. Cycling uphill, sure.
I haven't hard mewed at all and have seen results. I am probably older than most of you as well.
Bone doesn't magically lose its ability to move after you turn 18.
Oh and I don't even chew, either.
The hard mewing stuff is a myth. Bones respond better to gentle forces anyway.
You started at 38mm inter-molar width. That's the sweet spot to start your mewing at because your tongue has enough space to rest on your palate. Most people in this forum are struggling with 30-35mm palates. I can confirm this from my personal experience. Moving from 36mm to 37mm this month (7th of my treatment), I have seen a big difference in my ability to posture my tongue and swallow.
I get it boss man. But at the same time proponents of "hard mewing" seem to create problems like moving teeth apart or getting tongue sores.
It doesn't mean the adult palate can't change. What it means is that the methods by which people try and achieve it are questionable. Especially since unaesthetic side effects develop.
Are you saying that mewing hard could possibly be counter productive? I have seen some success hard mewing in the short term, but now am a bit concerned that continued habits could cuase an undesired aesthetic effect. It's hard to stay patient, especially when you have a desk job and have the ability to mew all day while working!
I haven't hard mewed at all and have seen results. I am probably older than most of you as well.
Bone doesn't magically lose its ability to move after you turn 18.
Oh and I don't even chew, either.
The hard mewing stuff is a myth. Bones respond better to gentle forces anyway.
You started at 38mm inter-molar width. That's the sweet spot to start your mewing at because your tongue has enough space to rest on your palate. Most people in this forum are struggling with 30-35mm palates. I can confirm this from my personal experience. Moving from 36mm to 37mm this month (7th of my treatment), I have seen a big difference in my ability to posture my tongue and swallow.
I get it boss man. But at the same time proponents of "hard mewing" seem to create problems like moving teeth apart or getting tongue sores.
It doesn't mean the adult palate can't change. What it means is that the methods by which people try and achieve it are questionable. Especially since unaesthetic side effects develop.
Are you saying that mewing hard could possibly be counter productive? I have seen some success hard mewing in the short term, but now am a bit concerned that continued habits could cuase an undesired aesthetic effect. It's hard to stay patient, especially when you have a desk job and have the ability to mew all day while working!
I am not certain. Just seems "hard mewing" proponents develop issues that I never did and I personally don't follow advice from people whose own methods harm them. Hard mew and see if it works, who knows
Finally, yes I keep my tongue on the roof of my mouth and on the incisive papilla when I sleep. I just was able to reach my incisive papilla a few days ago, too. So it shows expansion is possible even without proper Dr. Mew approved posture (for a long time I held it behind the rugae).
I started this 6 months ago going on 7 now. Have had an intermolar increase of 6 mm (1 mm per month) and am 32 years old.
Wow, 6 mm is alot in 6 months. Ive only mewed for 1 month.
Do you have a healthy diet? Do you regularly exercise? Because I think your HGH levels are high.
Are you sleeping on your back or are you sleeping on the sides of your face?
Also, do you sometimes feel that your molars are aching?
@eddiemoney its been two years and no pics big bro.
Anyone here think eddiemoney's results are legit? I do admit he's a very respectable member and I agree with pretty much everything he says but without pics, there's no proof.
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