When I floss I feel that there is a noticeably bigger gap between the teeth on the lower palate as well as the top. However, the two front top and bottom teeth are slightly coming apart. This is currently not too much of a problem , but If they continue to expand away from each other further I don't think it'll look too good.
Thoughts on what I should do?
An aspect of proper lip seal is to suction lips against teeth gently. In the long term this should ensure that the teeth remain in comfortably spaced arches that are neither crowded nor roomy. Do a neutral suction-smile that contours your arches in order to get a better picture of the action.
How long have you been mewing, can you tell me the benefits? Was it difficult at first? ,
As for your question, wait for someone more informed than on the subject, I am also interested in the answers
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I started in early October and I am surprised by how substantial the results are. My jaw angle decreased by at least 10 degrees, along with a ramus length increase, and my eye area is more filled with better cheekbones. when I press on the bone area right under my eye it feels noticeably more forward than it did prior to mewing and I don't have as "tired" looking eyes. Breathing ability through the nose is also substantially improved.
I should mention that my dedication to this is pretty extreme though. I constantly have teeth marks on the side of my tongue, and there were points in the early months where the sides of my tongue were getting pinched by teeth to the point of bleeding.
Beauty (and health) hurts!
For the record I was 19 when I began.
I started in early October and I am surprised by how substantial the results are. My jaw angle decreased by at least 10 degrees, along with a ramus length increase, and my eye area is more filled with better cheekbones. when I press on the bone area right under my eye it feels noticeably more forward than it did prior to mewing and I don't have as "tired" looking eyes.
I should mention that my dedication to this is pretty extreme though. I constantly have teeth marks on the side of my tongue, and there were points in the early months where the sides of my tongue were getting pinched by teeth to the point of bleeding.
Beauty (and health) hurts!
For the record I was 19 when I began.
If your tongue is properly seated within the palatal vault, it shouldn't be making contact with the teeth, especially not low enough to be pinched by the incisal surfaces. It sounds like your oral posture still involves at least some degree of lateral tongue splinting that causes the kind of traumatized and scalloped/crenated tongue you describe. This could result in a degree of dental tipping that might be contributing to the spacing out of your teeth. Still, it sounds like you are making at least some legitimate progress, I would just try to focus on keeping all of the tongue engaged on the roof of your mouth and not between your teeth.
My tongue is pushed entirely against the top of the palate. The tongue itself is wider when it is fully compressed against the palate than the palate itself, so naturally it is going to hit the side top molars.
With how hard I mew, I worry sometimes that my oral musculature has progressed at a rate quicker than the bone is capable of restructuring, so my tongue is much stronger than it used to be, as well as the hyoid/lingual muscles, so it is causing this "overflow" effect.
Here is a question. I see everywhere that the top palate ideally is supposed to be flat and wide. The tongue seems to have two muscle orientations: flat, and vertical. The vertical orientation allows for greater brute force, but it is "vaulted" in shape, so wouldn't this lead to a vaulted palate? Which orientation should you use?
Maybe don't "hard mew"?
I started in early October and I am surprised by how substantial the results are. My jaw angle decreased by at least 10 degrees, along with a ramus length increase, and my eye area is more filled with better cheekbones. when I press on the bone area right under my eye it feels noticeably more forward than it did prior to mewing and I don't have as "tired" looking eyes.
I should mention that my dedication to this is pretty extreme though. I constantly have teeth marks on the side of my tongue, and there were points in the early months where the sides of my tongue were getting pinched by teeth to the point of bleeding.
Beauty (and health) hurts!
For the record I was 19 when I began.
If your tongue is properly seated within the palatal vault, it shouldn't be making contact with the teeth, especially not low enough to be pinched by the incisal surfaces. It sounds like your oral posture still involves at least some degree of lateral tongue splinting that causes the kind of traumatized and scalloped/crenated tongue you describe. This could result in a degree of dental tipping that might be contributing to the spacing out of your teeth. Still, it sounds like you are making at least some legitimate progress, I would just try to focus on keeping all of the tongue engaged on the roof of your mouth and not between your teeth.
I think it can be beneficial to use the tongue as a palate expander by widening it directly against the teeth. I currently mew so that my posterior tongue pushes in a square-like manner directly at upper left&right and lower left&right molars. The resulting sensation is similar to trying to push the tongue out through the area between ears and eyes. This seems to give the most stable support for upper verbetrae near the base of the skull.
Here is a question. I see everywhere that the top palate ideally is supposed to be flat and wide. The tongue seems to have two muscle orientations: flat, and vertical. The vertical orientation allows for greater brute force, but it is "vaulted" in shape, so wouldn't this lead to a vaulted palate? Which orientation should you use?
You should be pushing the palate backward against the spine, and the posterior tongue forward against the palatal curve, which in turn will achieve both the horizontal and vertical orientation you refer to, mostly as inevitable stabilizing directions. Over time this should 1. tilt anterior palate upward 2. tilt posterior palate downward 3. move face as a whole forward & rotate it upward, so that eventually your dental arches will align with horizontally neutral gaze of eyes.
As I alluded in my post above, it is reasonable to have some spillover of the sides of the tongue touching the gingival margin of the teeth, but never so far as to splint the tongue between the teeth (like Yegor described) which encourages an incorrect swallow pattern. However, the majority of the transverse force should be out against the alveolar ridge and not against the teeth. Even acrylic palate expanders make a few mm of contact with the teeth, but you want the force of expansion engaging the alveolar ridge or you will have more side effects.
did you have crowded teeth to begin with?
I'm in pain now pleas tell me what to do
Hey ! I've only been doing Mewing for two days now and my upper teeth hurt so much and chewing is very painful.
They also feel a little bit loose.
Would love to hear your 2 cents
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