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Great animation showing the relationship between craniocervical posture and craniofacial shape.

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(@auxiliarus)
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Notice all the different movements. 


 
Posted : 27/03/2019 12:35 pm
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 Kyte
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Hi, 

basically recessed people uncounsciosly tend to tilt the head up in order to make up for the lack of space the jaw requires. Am I right?

Is it correlated?


 
Posted : 27/03/2019 1:16 pm
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Posted by: Kyte

Hi, 

basically recessed people uncounsciosly tend to tilt the head up in order to make up for the lack of space the jaw requires. Am I right?

Is it correlated?

Not sure what space you're exactly talking about. Pulling the head upwards creates more airway space, so no it tilting forward would only make the airway smaller. 


 
Posted : 27/03/2019 3:12 pm
 Kyte
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I based myself on a Mike's video in which he stated that sometimes is tricky to spot a recessed person because he usually adopts a posture similar to the initial one in the animation. Otherwise that person would look as if he was chin tucking. 

It should be this One

https://youtu.be/HBK5cOcJIcY

 


 
Posted : 27/03/2019 4:02 pm
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@auxiliarus he said tilt up, not forward

@kyte. you are right. recessed faces/jaw leads to smaller airway and people tilt up to compensate for it. the upwards tilting pulls the head even further out of alignment and makes it harder to keep the tongue on the palate thus exacerbating the problem


 
Posted : 27/03/2019 5:12 pm
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@krollic it's true he said tilt up, however he only meant the chin, so the backwards part of the head does not go up, but down. Over-time this will make the head permanently go downwards.

Also I disagree, moving head forward and downward(you both say up, but you mean forward and downward) does not improve airway, in fact I'd say it makes it worse and chin-tucking makes it better. But both only slightly. However with time the head will move downwards and this will fuck your airway up. 

Mostly likely the bad head posture comes from PC or mobile phone usage and bad posture in general and eventually leads to a recessed chin if all your facial bone length is normal and not under-developed.

And yes sometime the maxilla and the whole face is rotated in a weird way and it will cause bad chin as well, IMO there are probably more with bad chin as a result of bad posture than bad chin as a result of maxillary angle. 


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 4:48 am
 Kyte
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@auxiliarus

Ok, you refer to the occipital bone and I to the forehead , so we are looking at It with opposite points of view.

Yes, I meant the chin. And that's true; that posture will amplify the damages along the time making the face even more recessed , ruining the airways and so forth...

I think that chin tuck doesn't make airways IMMEDIATELY better, but it implies their proper development because it encourages forward growth and ,as conseguence, more space


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 6:57 am
(@hetfield)
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Does the mckenzie chin tuck exercises fixes tilted neck? Anyone getting serious results fixing tilted neck?


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 9:40 am
 Kyte
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Posted by: @Hetfield

Does the mckenzie chin tuck exercises fixes tilted neck? Anyone getting serious results fixing tilted neck?

Hi,

I don't know, but it should.

What I can tell you Is that I suddently realized I started to breath way better through the nose after practising it for almost a month everyday with push swallow at the same time


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 12:50 pm
(@auxiliarus)
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Posted by: Kyte

@auxiliarus

Ok, you refer to the occipital bone and I to the forehead , so we are looking at It with opposite points of view.

Yes, I meant the chin. And that's true; that posture will amplify the damages along the time making the face even more recessed , ruining the airways and so forth...

I think that chin tuck doesn't make airways IMMEDIATELY better, but it implies their proper development because it encourages forward growth and ,as conseguence, more space

You guys are misreading my posts. I don't claim the chin-tuck will make you breath better, I claim that pulling head upwards will make your breathing instantly better. 


 
Posted : 29/03/2019 7:23 am

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