Earlier this year I noticed two bones protruding down behind my molars (one each side of the mouth), these were not there prior and have only recently appear. I also noticed it is now easy to spread my tongue along the roof as if my palate has expanded after over a year of mewing. Hollow cheeks are clearly visible now and my friend has been directing my attention to this quite occasionally.
I noticed reading back through old posts that another use had noticed the two bumps also on this thread: /community/community/main-forum/subtle-clicks-shifts-and-other-sounds-in-the-skull/
"Idk i'm also noticing like a pulsating feeling in midface when mewing hard. I also today noticed two bumps of bone, one behind each rear molar on the upper set of teeth, seems like a temporary morphing from remodelling." @Yegor_L
A user responded by saying this: "Could it be that you're referring to the lower wings of the sphenoid bone? These can be felt around the area you describe, right at the end of the hard palate" @Progress
What does it indicate if these bones are visible, does it mean that either forward or upwards growth has undoubtedly occurred?
Do you mean by "visible" that the bare bone can be seen with absolutely no soft tissue over it?
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Definitely have soft tissue over it, no pain or anything negative about it. They are just able to be seen now and poke out as bumps behind the rear molars like the other user of this site mentioned. I am only wondering if its a sign that bones have moved as they were not there prior to December last year.
It sounds like a sign that your maxilla has rotated upwards and outwards. Check this picture out.
I circled the bone that I think creates those bumps, I've pointed out a suture in the skull near it, and I tried to show which way the maxilla rotates when you mew properly. I think that all of these things put together leads to those bumps becoming more prominent as a person advances with mewing.
Definitely have soft tissue over it, no pain or anything negative about it. They are just able to be seen now and poke out as bumps behind the rear molars like the other user of this site mentioned. I am only wondering if its a sign that bones have moved as they were not there prior to December last year.
How did you first become aware of this change, felt a change with your tongue, someone saw it as they were looking around?
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
The pterygoid hamulus (a hooked extention of the medial pterygoid plate of the sphenoid bone) is often palpable at the edge of the soft palate. It supports the tensor veli palatini muscle and is the origin for a few of its fibers. This muscle is responsible for tensing the soft palate to prevent food from entering the nasopharyx and equalization of pressure in the eustachian tubes during yawning or swallowing. It can become a potential site of irritation/pain.
That's really neat and I've progressed to a very similar point right now too. And I'm quite certain my maxilla has come up and out, just a few days ago!!! But I'm not understanding where these lower wings of the sphenoid are exactly, or maybe I am.
If I'm lying down and in a Mackenzie tuck with my chin to my chest, back of the tongue deep back in my throat basically, am I hitting it, do you think?
And I'm feeling around with the tip of my tongue and feel a bump that's way back behind my teeth, behind where the wisdom teeth would be if I had them. Do you think it's the right spot? If it is, my tongue is wide enough to apply pressure to this area with the sides of my tongue while I sleep in a Mackenzie tuck. I also read and posted in that thread linked in OP and wondered if this might be what I'm doing at night while I sleep? Because I've observed some expansion in my upper third and I think this might be why...? This skull expansion reminds me of after pics of people who've done Naso-balloon therapy.
Hoping to get some feedback because I'm really interested in ways to "get at" the sphenoid without nasal balloon therapy. Please don't laugh (too hard, anyway) but I have a balloon phobia. :-/
Remember this pain... and let it activate you.
Definitely have soft tissue over it, no pain or anything negative about it. They are just able to be seen now and poke out as bumps behind the rear molars like the other user of this site mentioned. I am only wondering if its a sign that bones have moved as they were not there prior to December last year.
How did you first become aware of this change, felt a change with your tongue, someone saw it as they were looking around?
I was on an airplane with family and I was running my tongue around the palate and noticed the bumps, felt them with my finger and then later on observed them in a bathroom mirror.
For anyone thats not squeamish I've highlighted them below. Also interesting to note that I have developed a lot more room on the palate now, still maybe not ideal but certainly a massive improvement compared to having to cram my tongue up into a high arch that it was originally. When I saw a myofunctional therapist last year, she commented that I was not getting my whole tongue right up against the palate so I made an effort too. Very back molars look slightly tipped but had them checked at dentist not long ago and the bite/occlusion is fine.
That's around where I have the sphenoid wings too. See those arched ridges, that's where my posterior tongue presses against when I engage it with suction.
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
Cool to see my experience being shared by another user! I should mention that since then, I've continued heavy mewing and these sphenoid jettings have completely flattened down, so I assume mewing will happen in "waves." Once one upswing happens, the sphenoidwings become exposed, but then are flattened from pressure. Once another large upswing happens, they are again exposed until they are flattened back down in their new orientation.
I've always been temped to think intuitively that mandibular upswing is a linear and steady process but from personal experience I really do get the impression that it happens distinct steps.
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