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Hi guys,
I'm a 26 yr old male and I've been belt/towel facepulling for about a 14 months and hard mewing 24/7 (now able to put my tongue on the roof of my whole palate at this point) for the last 3 weeks and my results are pretty staggering.
1) My face is noticeably shorter. Like probably 1.5 cm shorter.
2) I grew 3/4 of an inch in height about 6 months ago
3) My testosterone levels have increased. My testicles have doubled in size (jumped up a size for my boxers lol). Since my test levels increased the following happened: Eyebrows thicker, brow bone much thicker, my pubic hair has now grown on my inner thighs and my leg hairs are growing out of control, seriously. My libido is through the roof-- I have to masturbate at least 2 times a day.
4) Overall skull change: My forehead shortened, back of head grown significantly, face widened a bit, midface fuller and upper lip more full.
5) I've lost 15 lbs of fat without ever touching a weight, doing cardio or dieting. Stamina and sleep have improved dramatically. I needed 10 hrs of sleep, now I only need 7.
I could go on and on about the results but I don't want to make this too long. I will post photos maybe later. All in all, big changes!
One thing I've noticed during this journey is this: Exponential theory exists. That is, I noticed most of my changes in the last 2 months than the year prior to that combined. Once you reach a certain point in your changes your skull/facial bones move and change shape to accomodate greater changes from your tongue from hard mewing. Like 500 g of force from your tongue a year ago would do barely anything. Now it is more "receptive" to the same force since your bones have taken a different shape and position. Nature really wants to reward healthy people (and make things exponentially harder for sick pple)!
Hard mewing>>> facepulling. I only did facepulling b/c my tongue initially couldn't fit in my palate and got some results that way. But hard mewing 24/7 is the most effective technique for driving the maxilla upwards/forwards.
One last thing: It really comes down to the sphenoid bone. Your maxilla is in front of it and so any direct changes to your maxilla will affect your sphenoid bone and your pituitary gland function. It's all about growing again and your sphenoid bone position and size is everything.
whats the best way to hit the spehnoid? and do u mew wiht teeth together? i can hard mew but it feels like i can only push hard in the front or in the back i cant do both where would u reccomend putting the pressure?
whats the best way to hit the spehnoid? and do u mew wiht teeth together? i can hard mew but it feels like i can only push hard in the front or in the back i cant do both where would u reccomend putting the pressure?
I mew with my whole tongue completely on my hard palate. Again, I didn't have the tongue space for that before and that's why I facepulled until I had more airway space.
face pulling helps with that?? what should i do ? i have a belt i can bite on and pull can you give me your routine? any other tips. Do you have teeth together or no? and do you hard mew
Wow, sounds like awesome results man, congratulations. Approximately how many degrees would you say that your mandibular angle has shifted? Would be a great source of motivation to see some before/after pics.
I definitely think testosterone production is linked with proper skull growth, I've noticed that all of my three brothers seem to have much higher testosterone than me and I'm the only one of us who developed poorly.
What was your diet during the process? Anything special? And did you take any supplements?
face pulling helps with that?? what should i do ? i have a belt i can bite on and pull can you give me your routine? any other tips. Do you have teeth together or no? and do you hard mew
I used a belt at first, then switched to a towel and put the towel ends on the ground with my feet weighted on them and then pulled the middle of the towel upwards with your elbows on your knees. Way more force that way.
When I hard mew my teeth are slightly apart.
Wow, sounds like awesome results man, congratulations. Approximately how many degrees would you say that your mandibular angle has shifted? Would be a great source of motivation to see some before/after pics.
I definitely think testosterone production is linked with proper skull growth, I've noticed that all of my three brothers seem to have much higher testosterone than me and I'm the only one of us who developed poorly.
What was your diet during the process? Anything special? And did you take any supplements?
1) Mandibular angle swung up approx. 35-40 degrees or so.
2) No change in diet. I just ate more.
how long should i pull for? any tips for opening airways
how long should i pull for? any tips for opening airways
I did it throughout the day holding the force for about 8 sec each rep. Open your airways by either facepulling or expanding your palate to make room for the tongue. Then just hard mew after.
wow. what has your IMW change been?
do you have an exercise routine as to increase HGH or T levels?
how do you sleep (as in posture) to ensure you mew while asleep
how much of these hard-mewing forces do/did you feel radiating around your face?
i don't understand the whole sphenoid bone thing. is there something i should be doing in relation to it? I don't even know if I can locate it
Excellent. It's almost like you have hit a second puberty. Looking forward to possible pics.
sounds great. Please make sure to take good quality photos, would help a ton
To answer the photo request-- I don't think I can share photos b/c I would be easily identified even with eyes and lips covered. My overall facial shape and nose shape are very unique and distinct that certain people would easily still identify me. Trust me.
wow. what has your IMW change been?
do you have an exercise routine as to increase HGH or T levels?
how do you sleep (as in posture) to ensure you mew while asleep
how much of these hard-mewing forces do/did you feel radiating around your face?
i don't understand the whole sphenoid bone thing. is there something i should be doing in relation to it? I don't even know if I can locate it
1) IMW maybe incr 2-3 mm.
2) I don't exercise much so I can't help you there, sorry.
3) I tried sleeping with my head elevated to ensure proper lip seal at night but found it uncomfortable so I stopped. I noticed my sleep has improved so much lately that I just sleep however which way feels comfortable-- mainly laying on my back.
4) I feel pressure on my cheekbones, brow area and nose area. Changes day to day tho.
5) Your sphenoid bone is behind your maxilla and houses your pituitary gland which functions to secrete various key hormones like HGH, thyroid and LH/FSH into your bloodstream. A narrow, retruded maxilla will "jam" the sphenoid bone essentially limiting it's movement necessary for it to "coax" the pituitary gland to pump out those hormones. That's why some pple find NCR treatment effective as it temporarily unlocks the sphenoid bone from it's original unfavorable position. Fix the maxilla by either upswinging it or expanding the palate will positively affect the sphenoid bone's position/size and will help with its function in relation to the pituitary gland. The face never lies.
How long did it take for you to require less sleep? Also, how much did your test levels increase? Did you take blood tests?
How long did it take for you to require less sleep? Also, how much did your test levels increase? Did you take blood tests?
Sleep improved drastically about the 2.5 weeks ago. I didn't take blood tests but my testicles have doubled in size.
what do you attribute that too lol
what do you attribute that too lol
Most likely better breathing through my nose which would always be stuffy at night. I also fall asleep MUCH quicker, like within 15 min of sleeping. The testosterone increase is just through better pituitary gland functioning.
Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?
Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?
My nose is more prominent as my whole face upswung and my eyes have more support and are more "hunter-like". People noticed I looked different but they couldn't pin point what it was, just that I looked better.
Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?
My nose is more prominent as my whole face upswung and my eyes have more support and are more "hunter-like". People noticed I looked different but they couldn't pin point what it was, just that I looked better.
Nice, I though that an recessed maxilla was supposed to make the nose look bigger though?
Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?
My nose is more prominent as my whole face upswung and my eyes have more support and are more "hunter-like". People noticed I looked different but they couldn't pin point what it was, just that I looked better.
Nice, I though that an recessed maxilla was supposed to make the nose look bigger though?
Prominence is not necessarily synonymous to size. As the face swings up, the nose will project more forward, but simultaneously reduce in size.
Wow great results truly.I got one questiote do you mew with your teeth touching. And how do you hard mew with your posterior third of your tongue fully engaged
Wow great results truly.I got one questiote do you mew with your teeth touching. And how do you hard mew with your posterior third of your tongue fully engaged
Teeth not touching, or slightly touching at times. Hard mew with tongue all over hard palate.
Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?
Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?
Yeah, midface shortened a lot. Looking back at my old photos I cringe hard haha. My face was so long, from my midface to my philtrum.
Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?
Yeah, midface shortened a lot. Looking back at my old photos I cringe hard haha. My face was so long, from my midface to my philtrum.
Thats nice but do you mean in the area from the bottom of the nose to the top of the lips or the area from the bottom of the nose to the bottom of the eyes?
Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?
Yeah, midface shortened a lot. Looking back at my old photos I cringe hard haha. My face was so long, from my midface to my philtrum.
Thats nice but do you mean in the area from the bottom of the nose to the top of the lips or the area from the bottom of the nose to the bottom of the eyes?
Both
Steph Curry does have decent facial development ngl
That's awesome man, I've been mewing for 10 months and only got width growth but no forward upward growth, but looking at your post I have high hopes. Also do you hard mew all day long? What % of force do you apply? Because I hard mew for 2 hours a day with 95%of tongue force but the rest of the day I only mew normally
That's awesome man, I've been mewing for 10 months and only got width growth but no forward upward growth, but looking at your post I have high hopes. Also do you hard mew all day long? What % of force do you apply? Because I hard mew for 2 hours a day with 95%of tongue force but the rest of the day I only mew normally
I hard mew about 8-9 hrs a day. I apply about 50% of my max tongue force.
do you get the bulge under your jaw when you hard mew? would you say most of the force is focused towards the rear or mid palate? thanks
do you get the bulge under your jaw when you hard mew? would you say most of the force is focused towards the rear or mid palate? thanks
No bulge under my jaw. Force is mid palate mostly.
Any before/after pics?
Wow, thanks for sharing the towel pulling!
read somewhere on here about how pulling down at the back at the palate (i guess that means sucking on the soft palate near the stringy thing at the back of the throat lol) will upswing maxilla? do you do this? im just asking if you suck or push on the bacl of your palate basically.
read somewhere on here about how pulling down at the back at the palate (i guess that means sucking on the soft palate near the stringy thing at the back of the throat lol) will upswing maxilla? do you do this? im just asking if you suck or push on the bacl of your palate basically.
Don't overthink it.
Hey bro is there anyway you would please privately talk to me? I am so insecure about my jawline and face and I have been searching for someone like you who has found amazing results and knows how to fix their jawline. I lost my jawline at 21 for some reason, it became fat and round and has no shape anymore, it used to be angular. Anyway I am 26 now but I read this and you gave me hope but if only I can talk to you. Please let me know. You can email or whatever you want.
Hey bro is there anyway you would please privately talk to me? I am so insecure about my jawline and face and I have been searching for someone like you who has found amazing results and knows how to fix their jawline. I lost my jawline at 21 for some reason, it became fat and round and has no shape anymore, it used to be angular. Anyway I am 26 now but I read this and you gave me hope but if only I can talk to you. Please let me know. You can email or whatever you want.
The first thing u have to do is lose fat. Cut the fat of your face and you will see your jaw.
BTW, What is face pulling ? Any example pls ?
How do you explain your forehead change ? In your case, your cranium seems to have "shifted backwards", but in @Progress case the opposite appears to have happened ?
If you are serious this must be the greatest results i've ever heard of, proves adult bone remodeling. "My testicles have doubled in size" Stuff like that makes me belive your trolling tho lol.
If you'd post pics i think it would mean incredibly much for this entire community. 1.5 cm would be insane results. Even just 1 cm would be amazing progress.
I honestly do not understand why people are shy to post pictures of their progress. Why would it matter if someone recognized you?
Many times the 'evidence' getting shared involves pictures which blur out critical information to conceal identify. Pictures occluding the midface and only showing the teeth have gotten passed around as 'proof of progress'. Pictures showing changes to the mandibular jawline and occluding both the midface and frontonasal complex are seen as 'look I changed my face'. The 'evidence' is so compromised it's nearly useless, and it ultimately comes down to one person going 'hey, I pushed my tongue into my maxilla and feel better'. Cool Story. Without some form of objective documentation is hard to tell what's a legitimate instance of craniofacial remodeling and what's neurotic bro science.
Nope, I'm not trolling. My face has shortened at least 1.5 cm. Again, I can't reveal even a grey-scaled, blurred out facial before-after as I'm a well known person and doing so would go against terms of policy in my contract 😀.
Cool, he says he’s not trolling so he must be telling the truth guys.
Very interesting observation with regards to exponential theory. Makes a lot of sense. And your story about testosterone increase/pituitary gland activation and the physical benefits that came from that is interesting too.
I agree about Hard Mewing being better than Face Pulling, but like you stated FP can be useful when someone is starting out if they don't have the room to Mew properly. With that said can you explain a little bit more of how your initial facepulling technique worked and the results you saw from it? I'm currently trying to do the exact same thing that you did.
Could you atleast consider sending pictures to a trusted member of this forum, and he could verfied wether or not the changes you've claimed to see are real. That way you wouldn't risk leaking your identity and even if you still concerned you could blur out your eyes in that one picture. 1.5 cm is insane distance, its something you would excpect seeing over the span of 10 years. If this turns out to be true, it could be a huge step forward for this whole community.
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Guys hes steph curry he cant get exposed like that lol. Im glad to see that you dont hard mew with crazy force. I have heard using any muscle too hard doesnt allow to function properly so i believe thats a good balance any progress updates?
i dont care if you post pictures or not but what type of contract wouldnt allow someone to post pictures of your face
I'm sorry, but what relevance do your testicle size and height increasement have? Seems like trolling to me. Please bro, I really want to believe your success story, but you have to convince us.
Everytime i want to cope i come back on this site where everybody is making crazy results but none of them are posted ( ecept jamo but he's redpilled very hard so it's totally different) .
And not forget they always write 500 sentances when in could have been summed up in half but they feel more intelligent maybe.
Remind me of the bluepilled users who when they posted " their results" in final had 0 progress ...or just like claiming power .
That would be nice to see your photos? mewing still in doubt for me to bring any noticable results. I am bigginer here( 2 days mewer) and all youtube says that it is legit. I sow some pictures , but some of the results were not from the comunity people, like from hospitals.( I have an overbite and my maxilla doesn't stay forward much). Nonetheless, while mewing i feel ticklish tension in my forhead and nose, so it proably works. I already started to take my profile photos to track the progress. I am going to take a photo once a week. Probably I will make a post here if i have any results . 🤔 😉
update?
You could try this: https://wholebodybreathing.com/community/community/main-forum/tracking-your-progress-via-photos-an-idea/
I really would like to know exactly where the tongue was placed- he said “hard palate” but how do you fit your entire tongue on just the hard palate. Was it tip/midtongue pressing against the arch ?
Also 9 hours at 50% of max capacity- the tongue would be utterly fried. How did he acquire this strength in 3 weeks (if he wasn’t able to hard mew for the rest of the 1.5 years)?
I really want to know because 1.5 cm shorter face is significant.