whats the best way to hit the spehnoid? and do u mew wiht teeth together? i can hard mew but it feels like i can only push hard in the front or in the back i cant do both where would u reccomend putting the pressure?

Posted by: Rockyp33

whats the best way to hit the spehnoid? and do u mew wiht teeth together? i can hard mew but it feels like i can only push hard in the front or in the back i cant do both where would u reccomend putting the pressure?

I mew with my whole tongue completely on my hard palate. Again, I didn't have the tongue space for that before and that's why I facepulled until I had more airway space.

face pulling helps with that?? what should i do ? i have a belt i can bite on and pull can you give me your routine? any other tips. Do you have teeth together or no? and do you hard mew

Wow, sounds like awesome results man, congratulations. Approximately how many degrees would you say that your mandibular angle has shifted? Would be a great source of motivation to see some before/after pics.

I definitely think testosterone production is linked with proper skull growth, I've noticed that all of my three brothers seem to have much higher testosterone than me and I'm the only one of us who developed poorly.

What was your diet during the process? Anything special? And did you take any supplements?

Posted by: Rockyp33

face pulling helps with that?? what should i do ? i have a belt i can bite on and pull can you give me your routine? any other tips. Do you have teeth together or no? and do you hard mew

I used a belt at first, then switched to a towel and put the towel ends on the ground with my feet weighted on them and then pulled the middle of the towel upwards with your elbows on your knees. Way more force that way.

When I hard mew my teeth are slightly apart.

Posted by: Halti.H

Wow, sounds like awesome results man, congratulations. Approximately how many degrees would you say that your mandibular angle has shifted? Would be a great source of motivation to see some before/after pics.

I definitely think testosterone production is linked with proper skull growth, I've noticed that all of my three brothers seem to have much higher testosterone than me and I'm the only one of us who developed poorly.

What was your diet during the process? Anything special? And did you take any supplements?

1) Mandibular angle swung up approx. 35-40 degrees or so.

2) No change in diet. I just ate more.

how long should i pull for? any tips for opening airways

Posted by: Rockyp33

how long should i pull for? any tips for opening airways

I did it throughout the day holding the force for about 8 sec each rep. Open your airways by either facepulling or expanding your palate to make room for the tongue. Then just hard mew after.

wow. what has your IMW change been?

do you have an exercise routine as to increase HGH or T levels?

how do you sleep (as in posture) to ensure you mew while asleep

how much of these hard-mewing forces do/did you feel radiating around your face?

i don't understand the whole sphenoid bone thing. is there something i should be doing in relation to it? I don't even know if I can locate it

Excellent. It's almost like you have hit a second puberty. Looking forward to possible pics.

We all want the photos now! 🤗 

sounds great. Please make sure to take good quality photos, would help a ton

To answer the photo request-- I don't think I can share photos b/c I would be easily identified even with eyes and lips covered. My overall facial shape and nose shape are very unique and distinct that certain people would easily still identify me. Trust me.

Posted by: krollic

wow. what has your IMW change been?

do you have an exercise routine as to increase HGH or T levels?

how do you sleep (as in posture) to ensure you mew while asleep

how much of these hard-mewing forces do/did you feel radiating around your face?

i don't understand the whole sphenoid bone thing. is there something i should be doing in relation to it? I don't even know if I can locate it

1) IMW maybe incr 2-3 mm.

2) I don't exercise much so I can't help you there, sorry.

3) I tried sleeping with my head elevated to ensure proper lip seal at night but found it uncomfortable so I stopped. I noticed my sleep has improved so much lately that I just sleep however which way feels comfortable-- mainly laying on my back.

4) I feel pressure on my cheekbones, brow area and nose area. Changes day to day tho.

5) Your sphenoid bone is behind your maxilla and houses your pituitary gland which functions to secrete various key hormones like HGH, thyroid and LH/FSH into your bloodstream. A narrow, retruded maxilla will "jam" the sphenoid bone essentially limiting it's movement necessary for it to "coax" the pituitary gland to pump out those hormones. That's why some pple find NCR treatment effective as it temporarily unlocks the sphenoid bone from it's original unfavorable position. Fix the maxilla by either upswinging it or expanding the palate will positively affect the sphenoid bone's position/size and will help with its function in relation to the pituitary gland. The face never lies.

How long did it take for you to require less sleep? Also, how much did your test levels increase? Did you take blood tests?

Posted by: Pame

How long did it take for you to require less sleep? Also, how much did your test levels increase? Did you take blood tests?

Sleep improved drastically about the 2.5 weeks ago. I didn't take blood tests but my testicles have doubled in size.

what do you attribute that too lol

Posted by: krollic

what do you attribute that too lol

Most likely better breathing through my nose which would always be stuffy at night. I also fall asleep MUCH quicker, like within 15 min of sleeping. The testosterone increase is just through better pituitary gland functioning.

Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?

Posted by: Halti.H

Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?

My nose is more prominent as my whole face upswung and my eyes have more support and are more "hunter-like". People noticed I looked different but they couldn't pin point what it was, just that I looked better.

Posted by: wardellstephencurry

Posted by: Halti.H

Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?

My nose is more prominent as my whole face upswung and my eyes have more support and are more "hunter-like". People noticed I looked different but they couldn't pin point what it was, just that I looked better.

Nice, I though that an recessed maxilla was supposed to make the nose look bigger though? 

Posted by: Halti.H

Posted by: wardellstephencurry

Posted by: Halti.H

Did you notice big changes in your nose and eyes btw? I think I developed a nose bump and droopy eyes because of a recessed maxilla. And have people you know noticed the difference in your face?

My nose is more prominent as my whole face upswung and my eyes have more support and are more "hunter-like". People noticed I looked different but they couldn't pin point what it was, just that I looked better.

Nice, I though that an recessed maxilla was supposed to make the nose look bigger though? 

Prominence is not necessarily synonymous to size. As the face swings up, the nose will project more forward, but simultaneously reduce in size.

Wow great results truly.I got one questiote do you mew with your teeth touching. And how do you hard mew with your posterior third of your tongue fully engaged

Posted by: Samuel Alonzo

Wow great results truly.I got one questiote do you mew with your teeth touching. And how do you hard mew with your posterior third of your tongue fully engaged

Teeth not touching, or slightly touching at times. Hard mew with tongue all over hard palate.

Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?

Posted by: Johannes

Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?

Yeah, midface shortened a lot. Looking back at my old photos I cringe hard haha. My face was so long, from my midface to my philtrum.

Posted by: wardellstephencurry

Posted by: Johannes

Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?

Yeah, midface shortened a lot. Looking back at my old photos I cringe hard haha. My face was so long, from my midface to my philtrum.

Thats nice but do you mean in the area from the bottom of the nose to the top of the lips or the area from the bottom of the nose to the bottom of the eyes?

Posted by: Johannes

Posted by: wardellstephencurry

Posted by: Johannes

Have you experienced actuall midface shortening? And if you dont want to show pictures of your face could you show pictures of outlining?

Yeah, midface shortened a lot. Looking back at my old photos I cringe hard haha. My face was so long, from my midface to my philtrum.

Thats nice but do you mean in the area from the bottom of the nose to the top of the lips or the area from the bottom of the nose to the bottom of the eyes?

Both

Steph Curry does have decent facial development ngl

That's awesome man, I've been mewing for 10 months and only got width growth but no forward upward growth, but looking at your post I have high hopes. Also do you hard mew all day long? What % of force do you apply? Because I hard mew for 2 hours a day with 95%of tongue force but the rest of the day I only mew normally

Posted by: Skull

That's awesome man, I've been mewing for 10 months and only got width growth but no forward upward growth, but looking at your post I have high hopes. Also do you hard mew all day long? What % of force do you apply? Because I hard mew for 2 hours a day with 95%of tongue force but the rest of the day I only mew normally

I hard mew about 8-9 hrs a day. I apply about 50% of my max tongue force.

do you get the bulge under your jaw when you hard mew? would you say most of the force is focused towards the rear or mid palate? thanks

Posted by: krollic

do you get the bulge under your jaw when you hard mew? would you say most of the force is focused towards the rear or mid palate? thanks

No bulge under my jaw. Force is mid palate mostly.

Any before/after pics? 

Wow, thanks for sharing the towel pulling!

read somewhere on here about how pulling down at the back at the palate (i guess that means sucking on the soft palate near the stringy thing at the back of the throat lol) will upswing maxilla? do you do this? im just asking if you suck or push on the bacl of your palate basically.

Posted by: vis

read somewhere on here about how pulling down at the back at the palate (i guess that means sucking on the soft palate near the stringy thing at the back of the throat lol) will upswing maxilla? do you do this? im just asking if you suck or push on the bacl of your palate basically.

Don't overthink it.

Hey, great post! Can you explain exactly how to do facepulling? I see the term frequently but I'm not sure what it is, but I think it could help as my tongue doesn't fit on the roof of my mouth. Thanks in advance.

Hey bro is there anyway you would please privately talk to me? I am so insecure about my jawline and face and I have been searching for someone like you who has found amazing results and knows how to fix their jawline. I lost my jawline at 21 for some reason, it became fat and round and has no shape anymore, it used to be angular. Anyway I am 26 now but I read this and you gave me hope but if only I can talk to you. Please let me know. You can email or whatever you want. 

Posted by: bigmikela1992

Hey bro is there anyway you would please privately talk to me? I am so insecure about my jawline and face and I have been searching for someone like you who has found amazing results and knows how to fix their jawline. I lost my jawline at 21 for some reason, it became fat and round and has no shape anymore, it used to be angular. Anyway I am 26 now but I read this and you gave me hope but if only I can talk to you. Please let me know. You can email or whatever you want. 

The first thing u have to do is lose fat. Cut the fat of your face and you will see your jaw.

BTW, What is face pulling ? Any example pls ?

How do you explain your forehead change ?  In your case, your cranium seems to have "shifted backwards", but in @Progress case the opposite appears to have  happened ? 

If you are serious this must be the greatest results i've ever heard of, proves adult bone remodeling. "My testicles have doubled in size" Stuff like that makes me belive your trolling tho lol.

If you'd post pics i think it would mean incredibly much for this entire community. 1.5 cm would be insane results. Even just 1 cm would be amazing progress.

I honestly do not understand why people are shy to post pictures of their progress. Why would it matter if someone recognized you?

Many times the 'evidence' getting shared involves pictures which blur out critical information to conceal identify. Pictures occluding the midface and only showing the teeth have gotten passed around as 'proof of progress'. Pictures showing changes to the mandibular jawline and occluding both the midface and frontonasal complex are seen as 'look I changed my face'. The 'evidence' is so compromised it's nearly useless, and it ultimately comes down to one person going 'hey, I pushed my tongue into my maxilla and feel better'. Cool Story. Without some form of objective documentation is hard to tell what's a legitimate instance of craniofacial remodeling and what's neurotic bro science.

Nope, I'm not trolling. My face has shortened at least 1.5 cm. Again, I can't reveal even a grey-scaled, blurred out facial before-after as I'm a well known person and doing so would go against terms of policy in my contract 😀.

Cool, he says he’s not trolling so he must be telling the truth guys.

@wardellstephencurry

Very interesting observation with regards to exponential theory. Makes a lot of sense. And your story about testosterone increase/pituitary gland activation and the physical benefits that came from that is interesting too.

I agree about Hard Mewing being better than Face Pulling, but like you stated FP can be useful when someone is starting out if they don't have the room to Mew properly. With that said can you explain a little bit more of how your initial facepulling technique worked and the results you saw from it? I'm currently trying to do the exact same thing that you did.

Please blur your face and upload pics everyone here would appreciate it. 

Could you atleast consider sending pictures to a trusted member of this forum, and he could verfied wether or not the changes you've claimed to see are real. That way you wouldn't risk leaking your identity and even if you still concerned you could blur out your eyes in that one picture. 1.5 cm is insane distance, its something you would excpect seeing over the span of 10 years. If this turns out to be true, it could be a huge step forward for this whole community.

@admin - I need jump in here and call out for a review for multiple harassment for photos

Any posts after this one requesting pictures will be removed and usernames noted to monitor behavior (Please report)

Users are encouraged to make use of the PM system if making a personal and confidential request. Users are able to blacklist others in the PM system 

Guys hes steph curry he cant get exposed like that lol. Im glad to see that you dont hard mew with crazy force. I have heard using any muscle too hard doesnt allow to function properly so i believe thats a good balance any progress updates?

i dont care if you post pictures or not but what type of contract wouldnt allow someone to post pictures of your face

I'm sorry, but what relevance do your testicle size and height increasement have? Seems like trolling to me. Please bro, I really want to believe your success story, but you have to convince us.

Everytime i want to cope i come back on this site  where everybody is making crazy results but none of them are posted ( ecept jamo but he's redpilled very hard so it's totally different) .

And not forget they always write 500 sentances when in could have been summed up in half but they feel more intelligent maybe.

Remind me of the bluepilled users who when they posted " their results" in final had 0 progress ...or just like claiming power . 

That would be nice to see your photos? mewing still in doubt for me to bring any noticable results. I am bigginer here( 2 days mewer)  and all youtube says that it is legit.  I sow some pictures , but some of the results were not from the comunity people, like from hospitals.( I have an overbite and my maxilla doesn't stay forward much). Nonetheless, while mewing i feel ticklish tension in my forhead and nose, so it proably works. I already started to take my profile photos to track the progress. I am going to take a photo once a week. Probably I will make a post here  if i have any results . 🤔 😉 

update?

/community/community/main-forum/tracking-your-progress-via-photos-an-idea/

You could try this: /community/community/main-forum/tracking-your-progress-via-photos-an-idea/

I really would like to know exactly where the tongue was placed- he said “hard palate” but how do you fit your entire tongue on just the hard palate. Was it tip/midtongue pressing against the arch ? 

Also 9 hours at 50% of max capacity- the tongue would be utterly fried. How did he acquire this strength in 3 weeks (if he wasn’t able to hard mew for the rest of the 1.5 years)? 

I really want to know because 1.5 cm shorter face is significant.

Reading this post again made me realize something very interesting.

The ancient symbolism of the golden Winged Disk of Akkadian/Sumerian and later Egyptian origin, is a representation of the Sphenoid bone and it’s wings.

Enhancing the pituitary gland would stimulate higher alchemical secretions enabling psychic phenomenon and even direct realization of universal truth. It would thus be a symbolism for the occult and esoteric practices.

@wishiknewsooner that's a really interesting observation. To confirm, are you talking about the "winged sun" symbol?

Something else that fascinates me about this case is the mention of proteins being excreted through the urine. /community/community/case-discussions/crooked-mandible-after-mewing-for-4-years/#post-9169

It made me wonder if this person has experienced improved vagal tone through his mewing practice. Then, I was reading a blog aimed at helping parents with supplements and various approaches to help deal with autism in their children, and I came across this comment thread where they started experimenting with tVNS (transcutaneous vagus nerve stimulation) with a TENS unit, inspired by the Nemechek protocol. And a parent mentioned that after using the unit first time, their child had a really stinky pee. According to Stanley Rosenberg's book "Accessing the Healing Power of the Vagus Nerve", who was partly inspired by Porge's Polyvagal theory, the glossopharyngeal nerve or 9th cranial nerve and pharyngeal branch of the ventral vagus or 10th cranial nerve are largely what's being innervated by the sort of work we do with mewing. Could this work also have some positive effect on the various organs the vagus nerve is connected to?

A common side effect or result of mewing that people report is improved social engagement, which may be related to improved vagal tone or increased confidence from posture improvement due to increased mindfulness and reduced negativism, possibly other reasons eg: work toward resolving scoliosis.

In response to your previous comment, my theory is I kind of think that people tend to overblow the effect of hard mewing, because it's so high effort so naturally we want to see a high reward. Have seen these sorts of reports from people with a history of face pulling and then they begin hard mewing, then getting some kind of "wow" result and attributing results to the hard mewing and downplaying facepulling. The kind of force this person was applying with face pulling, I believe, has the ability to move the maxilla up and forwards. Then "hard mewing" is simply the way it's maintained and built upon once facepulling begun the work there. I had this sort of experience with the pituitary gland as well: my theory is that because I suffered traumatic brain injury, my pituitary gland was effected and face pulling not only adjusted my maxilla, but the sphenoid along with it since they can be articulated together. My ears grew noticeably in a month, to the point other people noticed without prompting, which is said to be an effect of growth hormone.

Very interesting about the urine- and glad to know others share my thoughts about this. I am really excited about the prospects of face pulling. How long have you done it and what styles did you use?

As far as my thoughts on hard mewing - The tongue seems to be a central hub of sorts. Notice when you eat a poor diet your tongue becomes coated in gunk the next morning? There’s a direct connection between the digestive system and the tongue. And sublingual absorption - letting substances directly into the bloodstream by holding them under the tongue. It stands to reason that by exercising and keeping this organ vitally charged and healthy it benefits all kinds of things in your system. 

The tongue also connects the main meridian line which runs down the front of the body. So perhaps the facepulling opens the space around the pituitary, and the tongue mewing connects the current and turns it “on”. Food for thought at least.

Basically using this post as a Bible right now... lol.

Posted by: WishIKnewSooner

Very interesting about the urine- and glad to know others share my thoughts about this. I am really excited about the prospects of face pulling. How long have you done it and what styles did you use?

As far as my thoughts on hard mewing - The tongue seems to be a central hub of sorts. Notice when you eat a poor diet your tongue becomes coated in gunk the next morning? There’s a direct connection between the digestive system and the tongue. And sublingual absorption - letting substances directly into the bloodstream by holding them under the tongue. It stands to reason that by exercising and keeping this organ vitally charged and healthy it benefits all kinds of things in your system. 

The tongue also connects the main meridian line which runs down the front of the body. So perhaps the facepulling opens the space around the pituitary, and the tongue mewing connects the current and turns it “on”. Food for thought at least.

Interesting thoughts. I mewed for nearly 6 years, then finally tried facepulling, and only got the effects which I believe are somehow related to the pituitary gland after I started facepulling. I believe the thumbpulling method can help open up the median palatine suture and possibly others in the midface area. I did/do the thumbpulling method starting May of last year and wrote about my initial experience & techniques in the main thumbpulling thread. I went from a 45mm indicator line to now 39mm, but I have to go very slowly as of late because my lower incisors are now quite close to my upper incisors, so I'm trying some things to help lengthen my maxilla such as swallowing in a mckenzie chin tuck, tongue chewing and pushing on the nasopalatine nerve (aka "the spot" theory from FAGGA that doing this will help lengthen the maxilla). Hopefully it all eventually helps and I could then go back to protracting my maxilla with thumb pulling a bit more, hopefully to around 36-38mm. But if I don't get to go any farther due to the limiting factor I've come up against, I'm pleased with the result and the improvement to my sleep has changed my life. Yes, I think the potential effect upon the pituitary is interesting and here's an interview with a myofunctional therapist that delves in to it a bit.

Very interesting read, thanks for linking it. 

Basically what she recommended was everything that would have made a huge difference in my childhood: not sleeping with cats, wool bed cover to prevent dust mite infestation, chewing food well, nose breathing, tongue posture.  It’s always difficult knowing that if someone would have just told me these things as a kid my life would be completely different. But I’m glad the information is finally spreading.

Regarding your thum pulling- did you ever protract the maxilla with it? Or just expand the width laterally. I read through that thread but it was a while ago. I’m wondering if pulling the maxilla forwards with the thumbs might be more effective than the belt/towel method.

Ive had an interesting healing crisis come up fast and recently and I believe it’s related to all these changes im making in my sleeping tongue posture and also chewing mastica. I had a very sudden onset of what seems like strep throat- as well as bronchitis in my lungs. My mucus has been brown from the sinuses and green from my lungs. It definitely seems bacteria related. But it’s interesting because I haven’t had colored mucus since I was 8 yrs old with severe bronchitis which led to the antibiotics, Candida, sinusitis then mouth breathing etc. so I wonder if I’m getting to the root cause of the issue, if that makes sense.

Mastica is supposed to kill strep throat bacteria as well as a few viruses like herpes. That could be it. But I also wonder if infections are “stored” in the face... lol and by pulling it forward you’re releasing and reliving all those compacted germs/issues. Some kind of holographic encapsulation if you know what I mean. It must be all connected on some level.

Wow, check this out https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080702132213.htm

The Herpes virus is stored in the Trigeminal nerve in the face.

Posted by: WishIKnewSooner

I really would like to know exactly where the tongue was placed- he said “hard palate” but how do you fit your entire tongue on just the hard palate. Was it tip/midtongue pressing against the arch ? 

Also 9 hours at 50% of max capacity- the tongue would be utterly fried. How did he acquire this strength in 3 weeks (if he wasn’t able to hard mew for the rest of the 1.5 years)? 

I really want to know because 1.5 cm shorter face is significant.

Even though im 100% convinced OP is a troll, having your tongue push up on the palate all the time with moderate strength is definetely possible. In fact, i can do that the entire day and not get sore or anything.

@wardellstephencurry

There is a link between the hormones and craniofacial development. There was a study I read that mentioned low human growth hormone was linked with poor craniofacial development. However, I am here to ask some questions as I have found potentially an even more interesting link which is between craniofacial growth and skeletal maturation in this study here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11801341_Craniofacial_growth_and_skeletal_maturation_A_mixed_longitudinal_study

For those that are interested, see Table 3 and Figure 2 to identify the correlations between craniofacial growth and the maturation of hand-wrist bones.

You can see clearly that the results of mewing would be correlated with the distances measured on the skull in Figure 2 associated with stronger correlations between craniofacial growth and hand-wrist bone size. 

So basically the study suggests that "better/good" craniofacial growth results in "bigger" bones.

Now interestingly there are other studies which clearly show that: Low levels of HGH (somatotropin & somatomedin), Low Thyroid Hormone levels and Low sex hormone levels (testosterone & estrogen) result in lower bone mass, density and volume. Also too much Glucocorticoids (released by adrenal cortex) - impairs bone growth, so does too much Serotonin, Parathyroid Hormone, Calcitriol and Calcitonin. 

Now what I think is that the hormone dysfunction partly comes from the inhibited function of the pituitary gland which is responsible for controlling the activity of most other hormone-secreting glands, it is referred to as the body's 'master gland' because of this. So poor craniofacial development is gonna * you up!

And * me up I think it may have if this is true! I have a very small bone frame (which as a guy sucks) and my craniofacial development is probably the main cause.

Now other factors which are linked to poor bone development are: caffeine, smoking, lactose intolerance/lack of milk and stress. Now stress is going to influence the hormones again, which as I said before is linked to craniofacial development. So they both effect each other. Stress >> Poor Hormones >> Poor Craniofacial development &  Poor Craniofacial Development (poor posture) >> Poor Hormones >> Stress. It's a double-edged sword.

There are just so many benefits to having good craniofacial development it is ridiculous -

better airways (through the nasal passage) >> better sleep >> sense of relaxation or calmness >> better mental health >> better hormone regulation >> better bones

@greensmoothies

How do you do facepulling and are there any other methods to open the space which you would recommend and don't screw my teeth up?

Posted by: @george1996

@greensmoothies

How do you do facepulling and are there any other methods to open the space which you would recommend and don't screw my teeth up?

What do you mean "open the space" exactly? I don't want to assume...

I used the thumb pulling method and wrote about my experience here.

Posted by: @george1996

@wardellstephencurry

There is a link between the hormones and craniofacial development. There was a study I read that mentioned low human growth hormone was linked with poor craniofacial development. However, I am here to ask some questions as I have found potentially an even more interesting link which is between craniofacial growth and skeletal maturation in this study here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11801341_Craniofacial_growth_and_skeletal_maturation_A_mixed_longitudinal_study

For those that are interested, see Table 3 and Figure 2 to identify the correlations between craniofacial growth and the maturation of hand-wrist bones.

You can see clearly that the results of mewing would be correlated with the distances measured on the skull in Figure 2 associated with stronger correlations between craniofacial growth and hand-wrist bone size. 

So basically the study suggests that "better/good" craniofacial growth results in "bigger" bones.

Now interestingly there are other studies which clearly show that: Low levels of HGH (somatotropin & somatomedin), Low Thyroid Hormone levels and Low sex hormone levels (testosterone & estrogen) result in lower bone mass, density and volume. Also too much Glucocorticoids (released by adrenal cortex) - impairs bone growth, so does too much Serotonin, Parathyroid Hormone, Calcitriol and Calcitonin. 

Now what I think is that the hormone dysfunction partly comes from the inhibited function of the pituitary gland which is responsible for controlling the activity of most other hormone-secreting glands, it is referred to as the body's 'master gland' because of this. So poor craniofacial development is gonna * you up!

And * me up I think it may have if this is true! I have a very small bone frame (which as a guy sucks) and my craniofacial development is probably the main cause.

Now other factors which are linked to poor bone development are: caffeine, smoking, lactose intolerance/lack of milk and stress. Now stress is going to influence the hormones again, which as I said before is linked to craniofacial development. So they both effect each other. Stress >> Poor Hormones >> Poor Craniofacial development &  Poor Craniofacial Development (poor posture) >> Poor Hormones >> Stress. It's a double-edged sword.

 

 

There are just so many benefits to having good craniofacial development it is ridiculous -

better airways (through the nasal passage) >> better sleep >> sense of relaxation or calmness >> better mental health >> better hormone regulation >> better bones

 

 

 

 

 

And traumatic brain injury can cause pituitary dysfunction. I suspect this is what happened to me. I've written about my sleep improvements after a decrease in mew indicator line by 4mm using thumb pulling, and the effects observed suggested growth hormone increase.

@george1996

Fascinating, thanks for sharing, especially the study showing the link between craniofacial development and overall skeletal bone development. 

I have tiny thin wrists and bones throughout my body and I have had an extremely stressful childhood and teenagehood period on top of relatively poor craniofacial development. I'm trying to make changes to my face but I'm not sure what to do there are so many options with so many conflicting opinions:

MSE (Maxillary Skeletal Expander) - Supported by youtube channel 'Jaw Hacks'

Homeoblock (Mentioned in James Nestor's book 'Breath' and interview with Joe Rogan)

Biobloc (developed by John Mew)

Out of these options above which I believe are the most safe and potentially most effective approaches regarding oral devices I am most attracted to Homeobloc and Biobloc because they are both relatively non-invasive.

The most significant results between the three unarguably come from the MSE device and the individual who runs the 'Jaw Hacks' channel believes that Homeobloc and Biobloc are ineffective for expanding the maxilla and only move the teeth because they are tooth born appliances rather than bone born. However John Mew claims his device expands the maxilla and results in minimal teeth tipping (when the teeth are pushed out at an angle because of the force the device exerts on them). Both conflicting opinions. I'd be interested for anybodies input on this? (A lot of people seem to claim there isn't much concrete evidence for biobloc and homeobloc showing bone changes under x-rays compared to MSE.)

I'm 24 and I am a bit overwhelmed with the amount of choices there are out there and also I'm unsure just how much change I want to see my face change, I don't want it too drastic a change, I just want what was supposed to happen to my face if I had my tongue on the roof of my mouth to begin with. I'm looking to restore myself to my genetic glory basically, I hate the fact that poor facial development has had such a dramatic impact on my life, it has impacted my self-confidence, sleep quality, energy levels, mood, concentration and much more.

I also know myofunctional therapy is important so any tips on that would be appreciated too.

I also struggle with general posture anyway which is a psychosomatic issue (caused by psychological trauma) so it's not something that is resolvable through brute force, by that I mean having a constant conscious attempt to have good posture. I think it's worth mentioning for anyone who doesn't make progress trying to improve their posture through conscious muscular effort as there are more intricate reasons at play. A depressed or anxious person will adopt a poorer posture simply because the neurochemistry from these mental illnesses morphs the body into poor postural function. I will say I do believe it may be possible to change posture out of conscious muscular effort (for people with mental illnesses too) but I think it's an inefficient way.

If anyone has an action plan or can share some useful guidance and thoughts for me I'd really appreciate it, I'm very indecisive.

Good job man. Also fuck little jealous bitches that think you're troll. 

Posted by: @wardellstephencurry

Hi guys,

I'm a 26 yr old male and I've been belt/towel facepulling for about a 14 months and hard mewing 24/7 (now able to put my tongue on the roof of my whole palate at this point) for the last 3 weeks and my results are pretty staggering.

1) My face is noticeably shorter. Like probably 1.5 cm shorter.

2) I grew 3/4 of an inch in height about 6 months ago

3) My testosterone levels have increased. My testicles have doubled in size (jumped up a size for my boxers lol). Since my test levels increased the following happened: Eyebrows thicker, brow bone much thicker, my pubic hair has now grown on my inner thighs and my leg hairs are growing out of control, seriously. My libido is through the roof-- I have to masturbate at least 2 times a day.

4) Overall skull change: My forehead shortened, back of head grown significantly, face widened a bit, midface fuller and upper lip more full.

5) I've lost 15 lbs of fat without ever touching a weight, doing cardio or dieting. Stamina and sleep have improved dramatically. I needed 10 hrs of sleep, now I only need 7.

I could go on and on about the results but I don't want to make this too long. I will post photos maybe later. All in all, big changes!

One thing I've noticed during this journey is this: Exponential theory exists. That is, I noticed most of my changes in the last 2 months than the year prior to that combined. Once you reach a certain point in your changes your skull/facial bones move and change shape to accomodate greater changes from your tongue from hard mewing. Like 500 g of force from your tongue a year ago would do barely anything. Now it is more "receptive" to the same force since your bones have taken a different shape and position. Nature really wants to reward healthy people (and make things exponentially harder for sick pple)!

Hard mewing>>> facepulling. I only did facepulling b/c my tongue initially couldn't fit in my palate and got some results that way. But hard mewing 24/7 is the most effective technique for driving the maxilla upwards/forwards.

One last thing: It really comes down to the sphenoid bone. Your maxilla is in front of it and so any direct changes to your maxilla will affect your sphenoid bone and your pituitary gland function. It's all about growing again and your sphenoid bone position and size is everything.

 

how are you currently

(I'm from Brazil, my language is Portuguese. I'm using google translator)