Idk how many people of this forum are into strengh sports or bodybuilding, or even just medical/physio students.
But the TOTAL basic information about strenght training and hypertrophy is that something between 3-20 repetitions (depending on the load obviously) for 3-4 sets and 1-3 sets/week is what is needed to grow strenght and size.
Everything that is about endurance training (30 or 60 minutes of chewing? lol) won't make a tangible difference in strenght and size.
Try to measure your leg size after training for a year a session of 100 squats with no overload, it just won't change, or the change will be exhilarant compared to what you can achieve with progressive overload over less repetitions.
So i'm wondering, if we really wanna train our masseter, why are we just chewing gums for one hour instead of actually finding a working method?
There is a distinction between muscle strength and size. A muscle can be large but weak: example muscles of a large but lazy person. The opposite can be true as well. Muscles can be small but strong: example a small but very active person. Repetitive strengthening exercise tend to increase the strength of the muscle to it's maximum size where as heavy straightening exercise tend to increase the muscle size to the maximum. Also different muscles have different fibers, thus require strengthening
Also, muscle fibers play a big role in the number of repetition needed to strengthen them. Deep neck flexors for example are known to require a high number of repetition to become stronger. The higher the number the better. If you can do them 100 times per day great. Mastication muscles are no different.
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There is a distinction between muscle strength and size. A muscle can be large but weak: example muscles of a large but lazy person. The opposite can be true as well. Muscles can be small but strong: example a small but very active person. Repetitive strengthening exercise tend to increase the strength of the muscle to it's maximum size where as heavy straightening exercise tend to increase the muscle size to the maximum. Also different muscles have different fibers, thus require strengthening
Also, muscle fibers play a big role in the number of repetition needed to strengthen them. Deep neck flexors for example are known to require a high number of repetition to become stronger. The higher the number the better. If you can do them 100 times per day great. Mastication muscles are no different.
I'm sorry but it seems you didn't get the point of my message. Even if it's true that diffente fibers (aka I or II, slow or fast) are more prone to one kind of training, it's also true that slow fibers WILL NEVER GROW to a decent amount. If you train your mastication for 1 hour you're training one kind of fiber that will always be weak and small. Masseter obviously also involves Fast fibers that are prone to grow alot both in size and strenght, but only if the training "involves" them, so with low repetition and really hight load. So i'm wondering if it could help to find other kind of trainings that will help him grow more (it's really aesthetic) and stronger
Allot of people who are chewing gum allot are complaining of over sized massater muscles. Heck I chew only 30min of falim everyday and see my massaters have quite developed in size.
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
@abdulrahman Do you have any before afters of someone whos increased their masseter size by a lot? Or someone with just really well developed masseter muscles? (other than Mike Mew). Seems like its mostly about bone structure, but would be interesting to know how much of an aesthetic improvement I would gain from an increase in masseter muscle size. I've also heard Mike Mew saying some people are attractive partially because they have good muscle tone.
I saw an article about a woman in Asia who had to have masseter reduction surgery because her face was totally square due to huge masseters from chewing gum all day. Also, people can get them just from clenching or grinding.
It's not true that you don't get muscle growth from low resistance/high reps. I do 15-20 rep sets with weights in the gym and I have obviously bigger muscles than I had when I started. High reps/lower weight gives you smaller, but more "defined" muscle growth IMO.
This woman has a large mandible and chewed gum for hours a day.
Of course I would not be surprised if she had this genetically. Strikes me as the type to just have a big mandible
I saw an article about a woman in Asia who had to have masseter reduction surgery because her face was totally square due to huge masseters from chewing gum all day. Also, people can get them just from clenching or grinding.
It's not true that you don't get muscle growth from low resistance/high reps. I do 15-20 rep sets with weights in the gym and I have obviously bigger muscles than I had when I started. High reps/lower weight gives you smaller, but more "defined" muscle growth IMO.
15-20 reps it's not resistance training. Resistance training is doing reps nonstop for 1 hour
Idk how many people of this forum are into strengh sports or bodybuilding, or even just medical/physio students.
But the TOTAL basic information about strenght training and hypertrophy is that something between 3-20 repetitions (depending on the load obviously) for 3-4 sets and 1-3 sets/week is what is needed to grow strenght and size.
Everything that is about endurance training (30 or 60 minutes of chewing? lol) won't make a tangible difference in strenght and size.
Try to measure your leg size after training for a year a session of 100 squats with no overload, it just won't change, or the change will be exhilarant compared to what you can achieve with progressive overload over less repetitions.
So i'm wondering, if we really wanna train our masseter, why are we just chewing gums for one hour instead of actually finding a working method?
I agree with you. I have never believed in chewing gum to develop the jaw's muscles. To me it is not healthy and not good for the teeth, even if it works. There are a bunch of better ways to do it without having to check gum. Even tongue chewing, done well is better. One just has to play with the position of the tongue inside the mouth . I tongue chew in several different ways,however, The ball pumping is my #1, honestly it is hard to top it and it can be just as effective for face pulling as well. I highly suggest you guys give it a try.
Ball pumping combine with different placement of the tongue works wonder as well.
I do plenty of chewing everytime I eat, so to me,I have no reason for chewing gum.
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@abdulrahman Do you have any before afters of someone whos increased their masseter size by a lot? Or someone with just really well developed masseter muscles? (other than Mike Mew). Seems like its mostly about bone structure, but would be interesting to know how much of an aesthetic improvement I would gain from an increase in masseter muscle size. I've also heard Mike Mew saying some people are attractive partially because they have good muscle tone.
No, I don't nor is it something you will find people interested in recording because having large massater muscles is not a pretty or sought after trait. It's just an after effect of the whole treatment.
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
I wanted to add one thing from the beginning but I can't find the video. Chewing is part of the Orthotropic treatment for children. It's the method by which the upper and lower teeth reach proper angulation and occlusion. If someone knows which video I am referring to and can post it that would be great.
my story: http://www.aljabri.com/blog/my-story/
Nucleus overload.
@abdulrahman Do you have any before afters of someone whos increased their masseter size by a lot? Or someone with just really well developed masseter muscles? (other than Mike Mew). Seems like its mostly about bone structure, but would be interesting to know how much of an aesthetic improvement I would gain from an increase in masseter muscle size. I've also heard Mike Mew saying some people are attractive partially because they have good muscle tone.
No, I don't nor is it something you will find people interested in recording because having large massater muscles is not a pretty or sought after trait. It's just an after effect of the whole treatment.
I agree. moderation/balance is the key, one has to decide how much is too much.
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