I have the same thing, except the left side of my palate is more vaulted than the right. My understanding is as everything expands, the palate will lower. Expansion is the first step before we can see significant forward movement.

For a month or two, I was mewing at the second location in your diagram. I can't say what the positive or negative side effects are to that, but it helped me slide into an understanding of what my throat and posterior third was "supposed" to feel like. For the first time I could feel my cheeks burning when I mewed, and even my forehead. I made it a game to try to have my tongue touch my uvula or imagine my tongue being so far back that it could "hook" behind my face and push my face forward. When I do this, my tongue flattens and presses HARD against my molars, but I can't say if I've actually expanded since I've only recently started to measure my intermolar width. I just know that my face looks a lot different than when I first started.

Recently, I've tried to keep that same feeling of the posterior third while trying to stretch the tip of my tongue toward the #1 spot, without it touching the teeth. I have a lot of room at the front of my mouth, and it's like I use the anterior and posterior parts of my tongue independently. The posterior third still pushes forward and expands against my molars, but I can't exert a lot of pressure using the anterior part of my tongue. Either that will strengthen with time, or my body is telling me I just need to focus on expanding those molars. I'm starting to feel sensations in my nose now, though, and along my canines. I'm hoping this is a good thing.

But the the tip of my tongue presses against the #1 spot, the mid-part of my tongue now presses up against the #2, and the posterior third pushes up, forward, and out. It does not feel natural, and I can't do it unconsciously, but it definitely feels intense.

I have no idea if any of this will help, but that's what I do! I have no answers about your saliva glands, unfortunately.

Edit: OH! I can say, though, that I get a MUCH more powerful force from my posterior third when the tip of my tongue is at #1 than when it is at #2, because the #2 spot pushes everything back so I'm really only using my mid-tongue to expand instead of the posterior, but I don't think I would have ever understood the sensations without spending time with the way you're doing it now.

I have similar mouth shape and I have been mewing on the spot #2 since I have started mewing. Bad news is that I started mewing only 3 weeks ago, and excluding first week of not-so-good mewing (weak tongue, using just the tip of the tongue...), it was just 2 weeks, even if I was using that location since the start. I felt some changes, but not clear visible ones (but I may be a bit too cautious on this).

Anyways, even if the location was always that one, I have changed a bit "my way of mewing". Before I used to suck my saliva in order to place a bigger surface of my tongue on my palate. That trick was even comfortable to get a better resting position, but then I quit that. I quit that because I was worried that "sucking" even affected the palate, pushing it downwards. Why I am writing this? Because my saliva glands were constantly huge first week, and now they are smaller than before, but still bigger than how they should be. So, I don't know if my mouth just "powered up" or that "sucking saliva" trick affected it.

EDIT: I didn't explicitly say it, but mewing was definitely the reason of my saliva glands becoming bigger, because everytime I stopped mewing for like 30 minutes, they turned normal. Thinking more about it, another cause may be my over powermewing. Indeed I am really spending a ton of energy with my tongue, which even hurts a bit right now.

From everything I have read, if you expand your palate it will drop down and be less vaulted which will make it easier to mew properly in all 3 directions at once (upwards, forwards, and outwards). I'm not sure if that is due to tipping or if the palate actually comes down for some reason (or the teeth move up).

As for the saliva thing, I've never heard of or experienced that before. There shouldn't be suction if you are mewing properly.

I have the exact same problem.

According to this article, the spot you're using (#2) is where the tip of the tongue should be

http://queenofdentalhygiene.net/2015/09/the-mighty-tongue/

I was thinking of posting another thread for this, we seem to have some internal confusion going on as to where the tip actually belongs. I've always had it right behind, and often slightly onto, the front teeth. But the oralmyofunctional person says behind the rugae, and cites that the nerve ending is there.

#2 feels far more powerful and seems to apply a lot more forward/sideways/upwards pressure.

keen to see what Dr. Mew says in this regard

I don't think the tongue actually applies any forward force. All of the tongue forces is upwards and very minimally forwards.

doesn't #2 being a downwards sloped ridged mean the force is directed forwards?

What I’m saying is in position 2 with my anatomy, I can totally push forward because there’s a huge shelf so to speak and I feel my whole area beneath my nose push. I’m just wondering if this might work at all because getting the maxilla forward is shown to be very difficult, and why Dr. Mew is using headgear or braces for some to try and move it forward.

What if those with palette vaults can move it forward and expand out some with this modification? I feel a level of strain and tension so much greater, especially beneath my eyes going back clear into my upper front skull... it might be interesting to see if in a year it makes a difference? I did the “regular way” for a year and got some width but not much forward projection. So maybe I’ll try it some more? 

Yes forwards and up from what I feel, with the rest of my tongue (it’s narrow back there) smushed up along the palette pushing upwards 

If I try to get my tongue to the incisive papilla a lot of my posterior tongue loses contact with the roof of my mouth. I think your palate has to be flatter in order to pull that off. Like you I have a very high vaulted palate so to keep pressure on it I need to keep it further behind. 

I know @lamo716 had great progress going to the incisive papilla but I for the life of my feel I have to force my tongue there and the pressure is much weaker than when I go slightly behind it. 

My spot is between your #1 and #2

For efficient tongue posturing it may help to become conscious of the dynamic between occipital muscles and tongue. These two groups are opposing, mutually stabilizing forces that can interact with each other through the palate. This interaction of forces could possibly be visualized like this:

Points of interest here would be 1) convenient overlapping at gonial angle and top of head 2) difference in mechanism of posterior and anterior bite. It seems that posterior bite is designed to channel the physical strain of chewing down onto mandible, and anterior bite up onto maxilla. Coincidentally, someone from either here or youtube did also recommend biting down in such way at some point. The act of biting down with molars does indeed urge the occipital area to rotate & stretch favourably.

An actual exercise I have had success with is modified Mckenzie where the posterior tongue is simultaneously stretched away from occipitalis by sliding it further and further forward along the hard palate, eventually finding itself anchored in between the palatal curve and jaws. It can feel like the tongue is dragging the palate to one way and occipital to the opposite way. When you can effortlessly maintain balance between these competing sensations, you know you have effective tongue posture.

In my own mouth, the present reality is that the middle/posterior tongue is pushing forward against the palatal curve, and the anterior tongue is suctioned upward against incisive papilla. 

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From everything I have read, if you expand your palate it will drop down and be less vaulted which will make it easier to mew properly in all 3 directions at once (upwards, forwards, and outwards). I'm not sure if that is due to tipping or if the palate actually comes down for some reason (or the teeth move up).

As for the saliva thing, I've never heard of or experienced that before. There shouldn't be suction if you are mewing properly.

If you can't expand your palate, is progress still possible? Is it possible with a high-arched palate?